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    = very serious people?

    You make some really important points on making room for the "barbarians". That is what is happening.  There is a reason why Social Security has been the third rail.  Sensible Democrats know that this is one of the few things where you allow no breach.  None.

    But our pragmatic friends don't understand that.  They call us ideologues and use a broad brush, relegating us to the fringe far left.  The truth of the matter is very different.  We are pragmatic and reasonable on a lot of things. But not on Social Security.  Our pragmatic friends are so pliable that they would let the gates be breached and have no sense at all of slippery slopes, etc.  They could use a spoonful of ideology once in awhile and a principle or two. This is not an all or nothing type thing.  You can hold the line on some things and compromise on others.  

    "Justice is a commodity"

    by joanneleon on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 09:16:00 AM PDT

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    •  When pragmatism is a synonym for moral and (5+ / 0-)

      political imbecility, you end up with what my sig says:

      If Republicans said every 3rd person named "Smith" should hang, we'd bargain them to every 7th. Then we'll see apologia written praising this most pragmatic compromise. There's our losing formula.

      by Jim P on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 10:12:34 AM PDT

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    •  Any true pragmatist should see that (2+ / 0-)
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      the US ongoing inequality crisis means that SS benefits need to be raised. (among other things) A focus on how to accomplish those goals would be most pragmatic. A goal of "beggar thy neighbor" accomplishes nothing useful unless you happen to live next door to Lloyd Blankfein.

      "George RR Martin is not your bitch" ~~ Neil Gaiman

      by tardis10 on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 10:50:43 AM PDT

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