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  •  you are calling bob johnson's words troll bs? (3+ / 0-)
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    zinger99, Smoh, Avila

    uh - you are so seriously out of line that you are beside yourself in your twisting.

    sheesh!

    EdriesShop Is it kind? is it true? is it necessary?

    by edrie on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 01:30:02 PM PDT

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    •  Again, Let's Review (2+ / 4-)
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      Bob claims that he sees people here on DailyKos saying that they need a gun on their hip  ("concealed carry," "carry weapons," "packing heat") because of these DK members have distinctly right-wing racially-tinged apocalyptic beliefs.  You know, like the people on far right web sites that specifically want a gun on them at all times so they can battle their way home through hordes of brown skinned looters.

      Furthermore, Bob is comparing these DK members (that he swears exist) with the  white supremacist child killers in this diary.

      Again let's review Bob's words.

      The more I read from the conceal carry/open carry crowd, the more I wonder how that feeling continues to infect so much of the gun crowd.

      When I read comments here on Daily Kos from those who regularly carry weapons about being "prepared if the shit hits the fan," I have to wonder what kind scenarios must be playing out in there heads.

      This kind of fear-induced, paranoid belief is stoked by the NRA. In fact, some of the writing I have seen here is a direct echo of the Wayne LaPierre fear formulation about the horrendous and frightening world that takes place after natural disasters, for example.

      The fact that Forde was able to combine this kind of "end times" vision with fear of the "other," is just a further extension of what has been playing out in the gun culture for the last couple of decades when the place of guns on society has transitioned from hunting and varmint elimination to "self-defense."

      The development of the language of fear has been the only way for gun manufacturers to ratchet up sales as hunting has declined in an increasingly urban population.

      Now, we get even a number of folks here who paint this doom scenarios as their very reason for packing heat.

      There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

      by bernardpliers on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 01:48:06 PM PDT

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      •  enough spamming! (9+ / 0-)

        This comment over and over does not prove what you think it does. Hr'ed.

        Knock it off!

        In our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart until, in our own despair, comes wisdom through the awful grace of God ~RFK

        by vcmvo2 on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 09:51:55 PM PDT

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        •  It proves exactly that. Enough of the doublespeak (1+ / 0-)
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          Uprated for bogus HR.

          -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

          by gerrilea on Mon Apr 01, 2013 at 10:52:27 AM PDT

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          •  wrongful uprate. (4+ / 0-)
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            He's spamming the same comment over and over.

            In our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart until, in our own despair, comes wisdom through the awful grace of God ~RFK

            by vcmvo2 on Mon Apr 01, 2013 at 12:35:09 PM PDT

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            •  I do not agree that it is even close to spamming. (0+ / 0-)

              Everyone has hidden B'pilers replies that include false accusations against many of us here on DK.

              He did cross a line on the alcoholism accusations and undermined his own position but that's it.

              And by HR'ing the comment in question you leave unanswered the those comments by Bob J.  Left here for all to see is how those of us that support the entire Bill Of Rights, even for "undocumented people", are treated.

              I won't reply again in this diary, I've read enough dishonestly and red herrings to last me for weeks.

              -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

              by gerrilea on Mon Apr 01, 2013 at 08:26:26 PM PDT

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              •  Oh Spare Me! (0+ / 0-)

                And I've seen enough wrongful uprates and nastiness to last me a lifetime. No one has the copyright on righteousness and the entire Bill of Rights is appended to the Constitution, no right gets elevated above the others. No picking and chosing.

                I studied it in law school according to you all I didn't have to do that. I just had to read the 2nd amendment. And of course read it your way.

                I totally disagree with this court and how they've read it. Shocking I know - there are many ways to interpret the Constitution. Think about it.

                In our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart until, in our own despair, comes wisdom through the awful grace of God ~RFK

                by vcmvo2 on Mon Apr 01, 2013 at 08:43:17 PM PDT

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                •  Clearly I have, thanks. (0+ / 0-)

                  RKBA: The States' Ratification Documents

                  If history were anything other than what I presented over 3 yrs ago, I'll correct my position.

                  I leave it up to you to "think about it." And prove me wrong historically.  Maybe there is some unknown obscure book, article or Congressional Debate that I've missed.  One that occurred when the 2nd Amendment was being adopted that establishes your position as valid.

                  We can debate today how said piece of paper is "interpreted" but there is no legitimate debate on what the 2nd A was doing, ensuring the individual right to keep and bear arms, for all people.

                  -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

                  by gerrilea on Mon Apr 01, 2013 at 08:59:23 PM PDT

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