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  •  I should also mention the welfare system (2+ / 0-)
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    ladybug53, Bensdad

    and its undermining of the traditional family.

    There was a letter to the Wall Street Journal (?) on Monday(?) that said that many women prefer the government as their partner. The government reliably provides housing, health care, etc.

    •  I'm a little more concerned about the (4+ / 0-)

      Newt Gingriches and the Donald Trumps.  Talk about undermining a God-given and blessed relationship!  

      I want to see Newt at the Pearly Gates explaining how his penis was totally out of control, it wasn't that HE disrespected marriage, his second head kept over-riding his judgement.

      I'll believe they care about Traditional Marriage when conservatives start stoning adultrous men.

      I'm not looking for a love that will lift me up and carry me away. A love that will stroll alongside and make a few amusing comments will suffice.

      by I love OCD on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 09:11:13 AM PDT

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    •  You do know that in order to get welfare... (2+ / 0-)
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      davidincleveland, I love OCD

      ...benefits from a state for a child these days you HAVE to provide the name of the father?

      And if that father is not paying child support then the Federal Bureau of Child Support Enforcement goes after the deadbeat daddy?*

      Best part of the deal -- the mother does not have to have a lawyer -- CSE does all the heavy lifting. Yeah, the government DOES make a pretty good partner.

      The traditional family is a rare creature...and was never as good as it may have appeared from the outside -- so says the child whose parents should not have married one another.

      *Or deadbeat mommy, as the case may be.

      •  from the Pennsylvania application (1+ / 0-)
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        The law requires you to cooperate in establishing paternity for any child born out of marriage and get any support owed to you and/or any child(ren) for whom you want cash and/or Medical Assistance.

        The Department will excuse you from cooperating with the support requirements if you prove that it would
        not be in the best interest of you or the child(ren) for whom assistance is claimed.

        In Britain, the responses from women as regards to the identity of the father make Internet fodder.

      •  In Europe another issue has arisen (0+ / 0-)
        Yes: up to 3 years in jail when a British man does genetic testing on his own child!

        This drakonian law is from Britain.  But in most countries, genetic testing by cuckold fathers is getting complicated. In Germany, a similar law to impose jail sentences on fathers was defeated.

        In Germany, even if a cuckold father takes a genetic test and sees he is not the father, this test is invalid. And it is not grounds enough to do a court ordered test. Father will be forced to go on paying for the kid his adulterous wife bore from another man.
        A woman who makes a cuckold dad work for 20 years to pay a few hundred thousands $, €, £, for a child that is not his, causes severe financial and emotional damage to a man. Then later on, society wants to protect the child by preventing dad from knowing he is not the father. Well, the culprit for any trauma to the child is the lying cheating woman.

        Does she get 3 years in jail for that? For causing trauma to her husband and her child? No. the law protects her. It makes it hard or impossible for a man to find out the truth about her cheating. And if he finds out he usually is required to go on paying.

        •  L.A.Times had an article a few years ago (0+ / 0-)

          about a man whose wife bore another man's child and two years later divorced him and married the baby-daddy ... and our man is paying child support to the household of the legal step-father/biological father!

          In California, as I recall, paternity within marriage must be challenged within the first year or it never can be challenged.

          Too late for the simple life, too early for android love slaves - Savio

          by Clem Yeobright on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 03:12:38 PM PDT

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        •  I really find it difficult (0+ / 0-)

          to feel a lot of sympathy for cuckold fathers at this point.  

          Call me in about 100 decades, perhaps by then women will have full rights to their reproductive systems, rape and VAW will be lost in the mists of time, we'll earn enough to raise our children without having to demand financial help from men, and we'll be the ones marrying trophy spouses after the kids are old enough to deal with it.

          I'm not looking for a love that will lift me up and carry me away. A love that will stroll alongside and make a few amusing comments will suffice.

          by I love OCD on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 05:57:00 PM PDT

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