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  •  I have never wanted or let anyone else's (16+ / 0-)

    relationship/marriage dictate to me. period. Wow can you just imagine the pretzel I would be with divorce rates/times per person!?! Who the hell do I think I am to tell anyone what to do with their life!?! Never got it. Must have missed the memo. So long as CONSENTING ADULTS are involved and I don't have to watch (eww) I really could not even be bothered to care. There is more than enough actual damage being done to people (Rape, violence, assult, wife beating, husband beating) that I just do not have time for the outrage for the evil gay. I just don't get it. OMG the horror! two girls are holding hands...WTF! OMG his tie is PINK, must be evil I tell you, EVIL, ya still don't get it. But show me a child being abused and the momma bear comes right out! Now there is an 'issue' I can get behind. Rape, yep got a few ideas on how to handle that one but not for 'civilized' conversation because it makes me think of very 'uncivilized' actions to be taken against the rapist. Sorry for the rant and I would probably not be a help to FB with your brother-in-law, have a few of those myself and it is hard. But I try to just let the kids in the family know if they need Aunti Penny to help them, I am here for them.
    Peace and Blessings!

    United we the people stand, divided we the people fall.

    by Penny GC on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 12:23:32 PM PDT

    •  Well, you nailed it for me... (9+ / 0-)

      Consenting adults... I don't want to know or even think about what you are doing. My kids, in their early thirties don't even get the concept why anyone cares about being gay, straight or whatever falls in between. It's not like they are sympathetic to gay rights - by the time they were in high school, their friends who were gay were already out of the closet. No cared about it at all. They way I raised them is that you don't need to like or be comfortable around people to believe that they deserve the same rights as you, and everyone should just mind their own fucking business and take care of their own  family.

      "You can die for Freedom, you just can't exercise it"

      by shmuelman on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 05:52:46 PM PDT

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      •  Exactly! (1+ / 0-)
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        And if you see something really wrong, like someone being abused step up and help. If you help you are part of the solution, don't help, part of the problem.

        United we the people stand, divided we the people fall.

        by Penny GC on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 07:59:10 AM PDT

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      •  This is such a crucial concept: (4+ / 0-)
        you don't need to like or be comfortable around people to believe that they deserve the same rights as you
        My (at the time) ten-year-old niece was visiting us a while ago, and we were looking at pictures together and came across a few shots of my friend E, at various stages of E's lengthy process of transitioning female-to-male.  My niece asked a lot of questions, and seemed deeply uncomfortable with a lot of the answers.

        My repeated response to her saying "I just don't get it" was "It's okay if you don't get it.  We don't have to get it."

        •  Believe it or not, that is not a universally (0+ / 0-)

          accepted concept here and has led to a number of hide ratings for me.

          "You can die for Freedom, you just can't exercise it"

          by shmuelman on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 01:06:49 PM PDT

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          •  I can understand that. (3+ / 0-)
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            It's deeply unpleasant to know that other people are uncomfortable around you because they don't understand or like something important about you -- important to you or to them or both.

            However: while it is definitely a good thing to try to cultivate understanding of and comfort with other people, I consider it more important to stand up for their basic rights even in the absence of that understanding and comfort.

            The other side of "you don't have to get it" is "you are still obligated to treat this person with respect."

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