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  •  Well, you nailed it for me... (9+ / 0-)

    Consenting adults... I don't want to know or even think about what you are doing. My kids, in their early thirties don't even get the concept why anyone cares about being gay, straight or whatever falls in between. It's not like they are sympathetic to gay rights - by the time they were in high school, their friends who were gay were already out of the closet. No cared about it at all. They way I raised them is that you don't need to like or be comfortable around people to believe that they deserve the same rights as you, and everyone should just mind their own fucking business and take care of their own  family.

    "You can die for Freedom, you just can't exercise it"

    by shmuelman on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 05:52:46 PM PDT

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    •  Exactly! (1+ / 0-)
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      And if you see something really wrong, like someone being abused step up and help. If you help you are part of the solution, don't help, part of the problem.

      United we the people stand, divided we the people fall.

      by Penny GC on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 07:59:10 AM PDT

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    •  This is such a crucial concept: (4+ / 0-)
      you don't need to like or be comfortable around people to believe that they deserve the same rights as you
      My (at the time) ten-year-old niece was visiting us a while ago, and we were looking at pictures together and came across a few shots of my friend E, at various stages of E's lengthy process of transitioning female-to-male.  My niece asked a lot of questions, and seemed deeply uncomfortable with a lot of the answers.

      My repeated response to her saying "I just don't get it" was "It's okay if you don't get it.  We don't have to get it."

      •  Believe it or not, that is not a universally (0+ / 0-)

        accepted concept here and has led to a number of hide ratings for me.

        "You can die for Freedom, you just can't exercise it"

        by shmuelman on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 01:06:49 PM PDT

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        •  I can understand that. (3+ / 0-)
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          It's deeply unpleasant to know that other people are uncomfortable around you because they don't understand or like something important about you -- important to you or to them or both.

          However: while it is definitely a good thing to try to cultivate understanding of and comfort with other people, I consider it more important to stand up for their basic rights even in the absence of that understanding and comfort.

          The other side of "you don't have to get it" is "you are still obligated to treat this person with respect."

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