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  •  I don't know about Sherrod winning a national (2+ / 0-)
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    election.
    His last opponent was very weak but had BIG BUCKs behind him.

    3/16/2003 Meet The Press: Dick Cheney re: Iraq: We will be greeted as liberators.

    by cosette on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 10:26:34 PM PDT

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    •  Bernie Sanders would have mopped the (3+ / 0-)
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      Floor with Romney.

      If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

      by AoT on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 10:31:52 PM PDT

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      •  lol. Seriously. n/t (2+ / 0-)
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        •  Did you miss the election? (5+ / 0-)

          I can only imagine how great it would be to see the gop candidate call Bernie a socialist and have him respond "yep, I think the banks should be held accountable. "

          Also, if we want to win in 2014 run pot initiatives in the south. Or have pro legalization candidates. You might not understand where we're at. It's okay.

          If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

          by AoT on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 10:52:55 PM PDT

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      •  I seriously doubt that Sanders would have (4+ / 0-)
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        done better in an election than Obama. I am a Sanders enthusiast.

        Governments care only as much as their citizens force them to care. Nothing changes unless we change -- George Monbiot.

        by Nulwee on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 10:54:04 PM PDT

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        •  against ROmney? (2+ / 0-)
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          You're kidding. All Bernie would have to do is mention punishing banks and the teapartybro wouldn't know what to do.

          If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

          by AoT on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 11:12:07 PM PDT

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          •  Are you talking about debates or election (2+ / 0-)
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            results? Debates, I don't really contest this, or care too much. It would be fun for us as spectators.

            But Obama is by far the best politician in terms of getting elected that the Democratic Party has had in ages.  Obama is in fact a very good leader at assembling people who know how to analyze data and campaign. That is in fact very impressive to the friends of mine who work in political science for a living. They are in awe of his political abilities.

            Sanders does not have that. He may have a sliiiight touch of the old-school way that Wellstone did. Signs and pavement, basically. But Sanders has never, ever, faced an environment that has made him anywhere near as tough as a Wellstone or Obama in elections.

            Governments care only as much as their citizens force them to care. Nothing changes unless we change -- George Monbiot.

            by Nulwee on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 11:19:08 PM PDT

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            •  Obama crushed Romney (1+ / 0-)
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              Absolutely crushed him. The reason the win was so big was because of his organization and how well he campaigns, but virtually any Dem would have won. The GOP doesn't have an electable candidate that can get past the primary, it's as simple as that.

              If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

              by AoT on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 09:35:31 AM PDT

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