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  •  Easter doesn't belong to Christians at all. (1+ / 0-)
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    Easter is a pagan fertility celebration. Christians, in wanting to have a celebration at the same time, didn't even bother to change the name of the celebration the way they did with their adoption of pagan solstice celebrations as "Christmas".

    •  The timing of Easter is closely related (3+ / 0-)
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      ..to the timing of Passover. The Last Supper was a seder. In most languages the name is also related to Passover. The coincidence of the timing of the Anglo-Saxon Pagan feast of Eostre with the Paschal feast led to a transfer of the name in English, but attributing the timing to "wanting to have a celebration at the same time" misconstrues the actual history.

      Cogito, ergo Democrata.

      by Ahianne on Fri Mar 29, 2013 at 09:06:40 AM PDT

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      •  The history of Christianity... (0+ / 0-)

        ...is filled with Christianity doing everything it could to eliminate paganism and convert pagans to Christianity. It's a lot easier to do that when one props up a Christian version of a pagan holiday next to an actual pagan holiday and hope everyone ignores that it's nothing but Christianity trying to appropriate paganism in an attempt to grow its popularity.

        Valentine's Day
        Easter
        Halloween (aka All Saint's Day Eve)
        Christmas

        They're all pagan in orgin but have been Christianized.

        Christianity is the Wal-Mart of religion. It would go into a region, open a store, drive the local mom&pop stores out of business with aggressive marketing tactics, and then monopolistically corner the market, leading to us now having Christianity driving public policies despite the legal requirement of separation of church and state.

        •  Christianity coopted the dates (0+ / 0-)

          ..and some of the folk customs of several Pagan holidays. Christmas is a prime example. Easter isn't. It has been celebrated on a date related to Passover (though no longer calculated in the same way) since long before the early English started to be converted to Christianity.

          Cogito, ergo Democrata.

          by Ahianne on Fri Mar 29, 2013 at 10:30:43 AM PDT

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          •  When Christians... (0+ / 0-)

            ...stop calling Easter "Easter" then I might accept that argument. Until then, Christians are still participating in paganism while trying to pretend it's different. Resurrection is nothing but fertility in a button-up shirt.

            •  English speaking Christians call it Easter. (1+ / 0-)
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              Most of the world's Christians don't speak English. Your argument is premised on a trivial happenstance of the evolution of one of the world's languages, and you think it applies to all of Christianity?

              Cogito, ergo Democrata.

              by Ahianne on Fri Mar 29, 2013 at 05:38:17 PM PDT

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              •  Valid point about the name. (0+ / 0-)

                But that doesn't invalidate the Christian church's successful attempts at using asspulled holidays held in proximity to pagan holidays in order to eliminate paganism (you cannot deny the Christian church actively sought to destroy pagan religions) by drawing pagans into the Christian church.

                Christianity won; it dominates the entire world, and yet that's still not enough for most Christians.

        •  In many cases (2+ / 0-)
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          quite right.  However Eostre is the exception.  The political crisis that led to the crucifixion centered around a day that was already holy for most religions at that time, the full moon of the vernal equinox.  It had been holy for at least 1500 years in the Middle East, was the New Year celebrated at least as far west as Rome, and yes, was also celebrated by the Saxons and other Germanic tribes.  But the real historical events also occurred at that time of year because that was when religious politics spilled over into secular law in Judea, and Jesus was crucified the weekend after Passover.

          In this case there was an actual, verifiable reason for the convergence of the two mythologies.  Granted, the myth of the Resurrection indubitably borrowed from previous Near Eastern myths centered around the dying and re-arising God of Spring.  But Attis and Adonis both took several months at it, while Jesus managed the deal in three DAYS, suggesting that somewhere in the interim, God invented a really good 3-D printer.

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