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  •  DallasDoc seems to be able to find 'problems' (0+ / 0-)

    re: Obama.

    I see what you did there.

    by GoGoGoEverton on Fri Mar 29, 2013 at 07:08:19 AM PDT

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    •  It was The Nation who wrote the article (14+ / 0-)

      Apparently there's a bigger consensus among thinking Democrats that Ginsberg has lots of problems.

      Here's the link to the article by Ari Berman again, in case you missed it:

      Obama Appoints a Controversial GOP Lawyer to His Voting Commission

      For over two decades, Ginsberg has been a top lawyer for the Republican Party—the same party, you may recall, that has led the effort to restrict voting rights of late. Ginsberg helped lead the 2000 recount effort for George W. Bush. He was forced to resign from the Bush campaign in 2004 after it was revealed that he was also advising the vile Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. In 2006, Ginsberg said, “Just like really with the Voting Rights Act, Republicans have some fundamental philosophical difficulties with the whole notion of Equal Protection.” And in 2012, he was counsel to the Romney campaign when it absurdly claimed that the Obama campaign was trying to suppress military voters by pushing for early voting for all Ohioans. Does that sound like the kind of guy you want leading a “non-partisan” voting commission?

      It is an old strategy of tyrants to delude their victims into fighting their battles for them. FDR

      by Betty Pinson on Fri Mar 29, 2013 at 08:30:16 AM PDT

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      •  Maybe . . . (0+ / 0-)

        President Obama appointed Ginsburg with the idea that somebody who knows how to skew (screw) the system is just the type of guy who will know what needs to be done to avoid all of the pitfalls that he has previously tried to use.

        Just speculating!

        "Stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?" Will Rogers offering advice to the Republican Party.

        by NM Ray on Fri Mar 29, 2013 at 09:09:02 AM PDT

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        •  Problem with that (12+ / 0-)

          Is Obama has never been able to utilize such a strategy successfully.  Intentionally or no, he never provides the oversight to get that result.  The crooks and bad actors he puts on these commissions just end up producing crooked, bad proposals (see Cat Food Commission).

          For that strategy, you have to oversee the work and make sure the designated rat fuckers actually clean up the mess they created.  Otherwise, you're just putting the fox in charge of the hen house.

          It is an old strategy of tyrants to delude their victims into fighting their battles for them. FDR

          by Betty Pinson on Fri Mar 29, 2013 at 09:16:45 AM PDT

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          •  Historical Note (6+ / 0-)
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            IIRC, FDR put Old Joe Kennedy in charge of cleaning up the stock market and establishing its regulatory structure. Joe was an expert at the dirty tricks that cause the stock market crash.

            FDR knew Old Joe was desperate to be appointed Ambassador to the Court of St. James.  He was dying to rub his working class Irish heritage in the face of the British royals.   So, without even hinting at any such offer, FDR made him work his ass off to clean up and regulate Wall Street.  

            Only after Joe Kennedy had done the job to FDR's satisfaction did he consider appointing him Ambassador.  Of course, Joe later screwed that up, but that's another story.

            That's how you use a crook.  You don't even talk to them until they've publicly admitted their mistakes and proven they've repented.  Then you put them in a position where their goals are very specific and where you watch them like a hawk until they clean up the mess you've assigned them.  

            But you never, ever endorse or in any other way, show approval of their unethical behavior.    In fact, you should make them admit their mistakes publicly and apologize for the harm they've done.

            Now, if you can't find a crook willing to do all that, fine. No problem.  In the case of this commission, you don't need their expertise. Their abuse of the system is fairly obvious and base, something that doesn't require any real skill or intelligence.

            But have some self-respect.  Don't worship crooked, dirty people.

            It is an old strategy of tyrants to delude their victims into fighting their battles for them. FDR

            by Betty Pinson on Fri Mar 29, 2013 at 10:40:28 AM PDT

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      •  Hmmm... (2+ / 0-)
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        Anybody who would voluntarily be in the same room with the Swift Boaters is suspect, much less someone who worked with them.

        I am not religious, and did NOT say I enjoyed sects.

        by trumpeter on Fri Mar 29, 2013 at 01:01:20 PM PDT

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        •  Agree, they're scumbags of the lowest order (1+ / 0-)
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          and its laughable that anyone in the WH or the Dem Party for that matter, thinks the Swiftboarters were smart or clever.

          There was nothing smart or original about their strategy.  Just the usual lies and smear tactics with a big media budget.  It doesn't take a smart person to do that.

          It is an old strategy of tyrants to delude their victims into fighting their battles for them. FDR

          by Betty Pinson on Fri Mar 29, 2013 at 01:33:20 PM PDT

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