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  •  There's a Big Trade Off (1+ / 0-)
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    samddobermann

    I'm not a fan of more immigration because our country is already over-populated. The population burden here is an enormous drain on our environment. We are effectively out of fresh water sources in most of the country. It also has a bad effect on wages.

    I'm not insensitive to those that want to immigrate here. I just think we should help them at home. What would have happened, for example, if we'd spent $2 trillion in Mexico and points south building infrastructure and generally helping the local economy to improve in a sustainable way? (Instead of spending that money waging war in the Middle East and Afghanistan.) Imagine how much more "secure" we would be--not to mention how much more secure the people south of the U.S. would be, too.

    And, by the way, why should someone have to leave their home and family, travel hundreds or thousands of miles away, and live in a foreign country just to get a decent job? If they love to travel and crave the excitement of going to another culture to live and work, okay. But right now the economics forces this burden on millions of people who would probably prefer to just live where they grew up.

    We have other options. I'm not worried about having more people pay into Social Security. If we increase wages and total work hours then Social Security will be fine. It's just getting short-changed because we've had a national policy for forty years to keep wages down and ship wealth-producing jobs overseas. Reversing that fixes a whole lot of problems. I'd like to focus on that.

    •  Fact- more immigration would help soc sec (2+ / 0-)

      You asked people to put their plans in the comments.

      Think liberally.

      Immigration is also not necessarily bad for the environment. Our individual  carbon footprint is not preordained or based solely on where we live.  Also, not everyone who wants to come to America is poor. Some have air conditioners, cars, and fly in airplanes.

       

      •  Well... (0+ / 0-)

        I didn't say I'd agree with them!

        As long as it doesn't add to population, I'm fine with it. But I'm frankly quite worried that we are already living well beyond our means, in terms of the environment.

        Ultimately, I'm a believer in the system. I think we all need to put in our comments and our ideas. I believe I am right on things, but I know everyone else believes that, too. So, I allow for the possibility I don't have the right answer (despite what I might feel) and they do.

        I welcome your ideas on this. Every idea I've seen here has been vastly superior to what we're getting from the other side.

        And, the system only works if there are relatively free inputs and everyone participates. So far, there's been entirely too much screaming from our opponents, and not enough from us. So, please, don't mind me. If you believe it, scream it. That's the American way!

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