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  •  Give me a break. (4+ / 0-)
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    It's you guys who want Obama to be a king---capable of all kinds of things a king can do that a president cannot--- more than any of those who you accuse of being part of the fan club. Don't fucking tell me how Obama is a "master of Orwellian language" and expect me to take you seriously.

    And I don't give a fig or a fuck who wants to take me on about this. I'm sick of this crap.

    Disagree with the president where you will, and vociferously, I have done so myself. But don't try to sell me on the idea that Obama is some kind of Manchurian candidate, equal to the worst of an Orwellian nightmare.

    It's full of shit, it's dead wrong, and it feels damn good to say so.

    "A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues." Theodore Roosevelt.

    by StellaRay on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 08:35:41 PM PDT

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    •  I would not be surprised... (1+ / 0-)
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      Loge

      If Obama and the State Department are trying to delay this treaty because they know it would never get past a Republican filibuster in the Senate. On the other hand, if he can delay the treaty enough to have it come before the Senate just in time for the 2014 election season...

      Workers of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose but your shackles. It is by the picket line and direct action that true freedom will be won, not by electing people who promise to screw us less than the other guy.

      by rhonan on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 10:16:32 PM PDT

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      •  it's also a bit of a category mistake (0+ / 0-)

        to not differentiate between assault weapons in the hands of private citizens and large arms in the hands of governments.

        and from the description, the treaty is something I'd support.  Don't know about the implementation language.

        John Podhoretz wrote something to the right, saying they should stop treating Obama as simultaneously lazy and a machiavellian next Hitler and instead treat him as an ordinary left-liberal politician who believes in federal intervention in markets to accomplish progressive goals.  It could have been written to the left, where he's simultaneously sometimes both a pushover and a secret stooge, as opposed to being an ordinary left-liberal politician who believes in federal intervention in markets to accomplish progressive goals, to the best of that which is feasible.  This doesn't exempt him from criticism, but it does mean the criticism should (a) try not to be extremely personal or highly ideological, and (b) should take into account the risks and benefits of given political choices.  I prefer the hypothetical Obama who is more skeptical of education "reform," myself, but he doesn't exist.  

        If someone said a year ago that Obama would start the second term pushing background checks and AWB, which my battle-scar HR's from the RKBA posse prove I vehemently support, I would have said he was crazy, but the politics changed.  The politics might not have for the specific treaty.  

        Pass this, do immigration, get something on paper about cap and trade, and see the economy keep growing, we're looking at an all-time great, especially since the Obama coalition has the ability to keep moving forward, like Reagan but in a good way.

        Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

        by Loge on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 09:18:03 AM PDT

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        •  The sad part is... (0+ / 0-)

          The treaty is an attempt to regulate the sales of military small-arms the same way we have regulated the sales of guns in America since the Gun Control Act of 1968. Basically, know who your buyer is, make sure they are a valid purchaser, make sure they are the ones accepting delivery, and keep a record of the sale. Even if it applied to the American domestic arms trade, it would have no effect, as our laws already exceed the standard.

          Workers of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose but your shackles. It is by the picket line and direct action that true freedom will be won, not by electing people who promise to screw us less than the other guy.

          by rhonan on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 03:52:08 PM PDT

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    •  Took the words (0+ / 0-)

      right out of my mouth.

      Sometimes the appropriate response to reality is to go insane. -Philip K. Dick- Economic Left/Right: -4.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.97

      by Ubik on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 08:10:17 AM PDT

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