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  •  I understand where you are coming from (0+ / 0-)

    but this is where liberalism and I part ways: paying in and not getting anything back when it is designed that way OR not paying in and getting something out. How do you morally justify this? Isn't that part of the idea so that those we do know and love will also benefit from the system and not always the nameless faces for the 'greater good' and 'societal benefit'? To toil and pay so you can die doing your civic duty while no one you know can benefit sounds like a hollow call to action that can only be sustained passionately for so long. And it's not a ME/MINE mentality to want to see it this way.

    •  How do you morally justify (1+ / 0-)
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      Klusterpuck

      letting 1% take 24% of the income? How od you morally live with 50% of the population having 1% of the wealth? How do you live with people earning and trying to live with $7.25?

      That's what the neoliberals have created. That's what we have allowed, working with them.

      Isn't that part of the idea so that those we do know and love will also benefit from the system and not always the nameless faces for the 'greater good' and 'societal benefit'?
      They would still get some amount up to whatever the cap is (I don't know, $50K/yr?). But of they otherwise have income of $200K or more during retirement, then they wouldn't get more than the $50K from SS, for example.

      Give the immorality of our entire economy, yeah, I could morally live with that.

      What's the point of letting neoliberals into the tent when neoliberalism is burning down the campground?

      by Words In Action on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 04:39:47 PM PDT

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    •  I would say that if someone has a (2+ / 0-)
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      retirement income of $500,000, then maybe they wouldn't get any SS check.

      Cause at that point, I'm going to guess they got more than their share in earnings and tax breaks and government services on the way to retirement already.

      “Washington has become our Versailles. We are ruled, entertained, and informed by courtiers -- and the media has evolved into a class of courtiers." - Chris Hedges

      by Klusterpuck on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 04:53:53 PM PDT

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