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  •  wow. this is sad. (4+ / 0-)

    it's hard to lose a friend over something like this, but to lose this friend is just to make official the separation that his views have already created.

    Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D.
    Drop by The Grieving Room on Monday nights for support in dealing with grief.

    by TrueBlueMajority on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 03:15:20 PM PDT

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      i wish I could talk to him for half an hour.  i am an expert at tearing down this particular argument.

      bottom line: no matter what he and his denomination believe about sin, he and his denomination do not have the right to tell the state who may or may not enter into the legal contract of marriage.

      his church may refuse to sacramentally bless you, but his church also refuses to sacramentally bless divorced people who remarry.  still, divorced people who remarry are legally married even if the RC church does not consider them sacramentally married.  And divorced people who remarry have a right to use the word "marriage" even though the RC church refused to marry them.

      it is the law RIGHT NOW that NO minister can be forced to perform a wedding he does not want to perform.  For any reason.  That law ALREADY exists and no one is planning to change it.  That law means that orthodox rabbis can't be forced to marry non Jews, for example.  So his fear that RC priests will be forced to uphold marriage equality is totally false and sounds like something he heard on hate radio.

      as I said.  I wish I could talk to him for half an hour.  Not because I want to repair your friendship, which is probably irreparable and totally his loss, but because he clearly has never come across someone who can go toe to toe and fact for fact with him on his lies and propaganda.

      as for honoring your absent father, I was at a wedding a couple of years ago where absent parents were honored by special candles that burned on the altar as the ceremony took place.

      Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D.
      Drop by The Grieving Room on Monday nights for support in dealing with grief.

      by TrueBlueMajority on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 03:29:27 PM PDT

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