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  •  I think the two most important things (6+ / 0-)

    Freud taught us was that we have unconscious thoughts and feelings and that they drive much of our behavior.

    Cats are better than therapy, and I'm a therapist.

    by Smoh on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 03:11:13 PM PDT

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    •  I think the most important thing he (11+ / 0-)

      taught us, quite by accident, is that a lot of men cannot admit how many of their buddies ar4e rapists and child molestors.  We are still fighting that battle today--and he really, really didn't like women who disagreed with him.

      The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

      by irishwitch on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 03:24:35 PM PDT

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    •  Freud didn't invent the idea of the unconscious (5+ / 0-)

      he merely popularized it and convinced people he had originated it. And Freud's explanation for why there are unconscious processes was completely wrong: he thought that "repression" was the cause. In fact, most of the information processing in the brain has to be unconscious for an entirely different reason.

      When you get out of bed in the morning, your brainstem sends signals to skeletal muscles to move in coordinated ways, and it does this many seconds before you become consciously aware that you are getting up. A different part of the brain receives signals from the muscles, eyes, vestibular system etc, integrates them, and notes that you are getting up. That integrative system is not the system that sent the orders to muscles to get up. "Repression" of dreadful sexy thoughts that disturb Victorian males really has nothing whatever to do with the fact that different parts of the brain are involved in motor outputs and integration of sensory inputs.

      •  Additionally, if we had to consciously (2+ / 0-)
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        attend to everything we were doing, we'd never get anything done. Attention is a scarce resource in the brain's economy (it's no accident that we speak of "paying" attention). Continuing your analogy, once we're up and we start getting dressed, we don't consciously think about how the underwear goes between the legs rather than over the head, nor do we work out from first principles why the socks go under rather than over the shoes.

        We actually spend most of our time on autopilot, using what Kahneman et.al. call "fast process" thinking. Only a little of our decision-making involves "slow process" thinking where we really think everything through. This often cause serious reasoning errors when we're trying to deal with non-routine matters, time spans much longer or shorter than we're used to dealing with, etc. because they don't fit the assumptions of fast-process thinking. But there's no way we could use exclusively slow-process thinking, because it's just too slow.

        Writing in all lower-case letters should be a capital offense

        by ebohlman on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 07:03:00 PM PDT

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