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  •  Capitalism with more regulations (2+ / 0-)
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    would be fucking spiffy!!!

    We now have capitalism with a lions' share of its' regulations stripped, which has in part allowed the conditions we currently see to flourish.

     

    It is time to #Occupy Media.

    by lunachickie on Mon Apr 01, 2013 at 10:59:04 AM PDT

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    •  You aren't going to... (2+ / 0-)
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      coffeetalk, VClib

      ...'regulate' employers away from installing machines in their businesses.

      (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
      Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

      by Sparhawk on Mon Apr 01, 2013 at 12:42:58 PM PDT

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      •  And where did I say that? (0+ / 0-)

        Of course, I didn't.  But why let that get in the way of a good sidebar troll?

        It is time to #Occupy Media.

        by lunachickie on Mon Apr 01, 2013 at 12:47:04 PM PDT

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        •  This is a discussion about the minimum wage (2+ / 0-)
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          Automation is a critical thing to consider. You posted that you want more regulation, presumably to maintain or increase unskilled worker salaries. That strategy will have limited utility because any reforms to increase worker salaries (health care, sick time, whatever) is going to be met with increased attempts to automate away jobs.

          (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
          Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

          by Sparhawk on Mon Apr 01, 2013 at 12:58:26 PM PDT

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          •  And of course, you presumed (1+ / 0-)
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            what others posted would be something that dovetails nicely with whatever neoliberal crap you feel like pushing today. (smacks forehead) What was I thinking?

             

            increased attempts to automate away jobs
            Has it ever occurred to you that fixes to the tax code and banking regs might go a really long way? Of course not! That would interject reality into your opinions-masquerading-as-authoritative-talking-points.

            It is time to #Occupy Media.

            by lunachickie on Mon Apr 01, 2013 at 01:39:21 PM PDT

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            •  How would tax fixes and banking regulations (3+ / 0-)
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              prevent people from replacing workers with automation?  

              If workers become expensive enough, it makes sense to invest that money, instead, into automation.  There's generally a tipping point, when automation, with a higher front end investment but generally more reliability and accuracty and far cheaper operational costs, will be more financially advantageous than hiring workers.  

              •  Of course, no one framed this discussion (0+ / 0-)

                in this way. But you and your little friends just keep on flailing and vomiting up strawmen at every turn, ok? Maybe someday you'll get somewhere...

                It is time to #Occupy Media.

                by lunachickie on Mon Apr 01, 2013 at 02:47:00 PM PDT

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