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  •  Thunder River, Tapeats Creek, and Deer Creek (6+ / 0-)

    are three of the most astonishing inner-canyon features in all of the canyon. The presence of so much clear, cold, fresh water gushing from the walls is a real mind-blower and Deer Creek Falls has to be in anybody's top 10 waterfalls in the world. When we did it, we did the loop so we came out where the trip started. Because of that, we carried extra water down which we cached near the trail on the Esplanade. It made for a much less stressful climb out knowing you've got enough water.

    I don't get mad. I get stabby!" - Fat Tony D'Amico

    by sizzzzlerz on Mon Apr 08, 2013 at 01:39:38 PM PDT

    •  that's the way to do it. . . (3+ / 0-)
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      caching water. Some folks don't do it, though, because they don't want to do the hike "twice." But extra water stashed in that usually drier part of the canyon. . .it's a must. Did you ever hike thru the Tapeats Wash to "Broadway" and then feel like you wanted to sort of tip a bit forward and see Deer Creek Falls from the top? I did. That's not a good idea, though. And Thunder River is really not the shortest river in the world, but a stream that the NPS or USGS feels has gotten away with its classification title for far too long. Have you been back inside? That's a scary thing to do, because you have to slink along the wet edge and there is that huge exposure and great fall if you risk all and have to pay all. Anyway, take a headlamp if you go exploring. Pretty neat what's back there and the white noise of the falls outside is just dramatic. Thanks for posting your comments, as always sizzzzlerz.

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      by richholtzin on Mon Apr 08, 2013 at 03:29:22 PM PDT

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      •  We came across Surprise Valley (2+ / 0-)
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        We camped along Tapeats creek a couple of nights and day hiked down it to the Colorado. And yes, it was a bit hairy. Fortunately, the water wasn't too high to safely cross. We then went back up to Thunder River and crossed into the Deer Creek basin through Surprise Valley. We camped along the creek above the Narrows, again day hiking down to the Colorado.  I actually had seen the falls a couple years before from a river trip, which is pretty much why I wanted to come in from the rim.

        No, I didn't try to enter the Thunder River cave. I'm not a rock climber and just climbing up to the mouth was way beyond what I could ever attempt. I read about it, however, and it sound magical. You just can't slip into the river or you'll immediately get washed out the mouth.

        I don't get mad. I get stabby!" - Fat Tony D'Amico

        by sizzzzlerz on Tue Apr 09, 2013 at 06:04:34 AM PDT

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        •  your last trip there. . . (2+ / 0-)
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          and the common sense not to have tried entering the spout (I wished I hadn't tried it a time or two). Deer Creek Falls is a must-see and stop for all river rats. Did you get to brave standing beneath the falls, well, behind the curtain? We used to use that as a rites of passage for our river trip customers. And on the way up to Thunder River, crossing that hairy big and slippery log across the creek. . .that'll make you think twice when the water's-a-boiling. What about the Mystic Eye ruin? I'm not sure if it's open to the public these days, but it used to be. Ruins in that area, too. Anyway, why not post a diary on your trip and give us all some photos. The pics posted on the Web reputedly showing Thunder Falls are mainly Roaring Springs (what does Wikipedia and the like know about such differences?). Can't find any decent photos of the spout. Maybe you have some. Still, here's Deer Creek Falls, on the river. This should kickstart some fond memories for you, sizzzzlerz. . .

          http://www.rockymtnrefl.com/...

          Treat the world (yourself, and others) as part of a living organism. Everyone and everything will benefit.

          by richholtzin on Tue Apr 09, 2013 at 06:43:54 AM PDT

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