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  •  There's debate and then there are delusional rants (8+ / 0-)

    Claiming the militia in this country is anything like the VC or Taliban is a delusional rant.

    You can't assassinate the character of any of modern conservative. You'd have to find where it was buried, dig it up, resurrect it, then kill it. And killing a zombie isn't really assassination, is it?

    by ontheleftcoast on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 09:38:07 AM PDT

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    •  Wow, really???? (1+ / 0-)
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      Quick questions, how many vets are there in America today?

      How many of them have witnessed and experienced said tactics first hand?

      The Al Queda kept the Soviets at bay for over 20 yrs, right?

      What am I missing again?

      Oh, that fighting the US government is useless and futile.

      The Borg said it best:

      Oh, and the point of my question was how many of the "militia" are returning vets?

      DHS Report on Rightwing Extremism Puts Napolitano on Defensive

      On April 15, 2009, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano responded to criticism from lawmakers, conservatives and veterans groups about a leaked unclassified intelligence assessment warning national law enforcement agencies about ongoing political and social conditions that could trigger "rightwing" extremism. In a released statement,  she denied the DHS targets anyone based on political ideology. The report said returning veterans joining militias "could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups."

      So, how many are we talking here? A few hundred? A few thousand? A few million?

      It's all about numbers, always has been and always will be.

      And the point that you intentionally ignored was that how many of our active military will actually shoot their mother, father, brother, sister or family members?

      And asking these questions doesn't make it a "delusional rant".

      What would you do if you were ordered to kill your family and friends and neighbors?  Surely you're not a mindless robot "just following orders" , correct?

      Therein lies the real dilemma and uncertainty and the legitimate questions.  Do I personally believe any militia could defeat our seasoned military, not a chance in hell.  

      -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

      by gerrilea on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 10:10:22 AM PDT

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      •  Remind me again... (2+ / 0-)
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        The Al Queda kept the Soviets at bay for over 20 yrs, right?
        Who armed the Taliban (they weren't called al-Qaeda during the Russian invasion) Without major financial and military assistance from us in the 80's or Pakistan for that past decade the Taliban would be a footnote in history

        You can't assassinate the character of any of modern conservative. You'd have to find where it was buried, dig it up, resurrect it, then kill it. And killing a zombie isn't really assassination, is it?

        by ontheleftcoast on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 10:53:12 AM PDT

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        •  Um, good point??? Maybe??? But again, (0+ / 0-)

          doesn't this prove that modern our modern military could be hamstrung by a group of "wannabes"??? And that's what I'd call Al Queda/Taliban/Mujahedeen  

          Asymmetric warfare and internal strife defeated the Soviets, eventually.

          How or why it couldn't happen here is still a mystery to me.

          That said, I don't believe we would ever recover if these "militia" groups started a war with the US government.  How far they would get would depend completely on the support of the people.

          See Hezbollah in Lebanon.  A terrorist group that ultimately got elected to office.

          But in a clearly defined role of us versus them, they'd get their asses handed to them but not before millions were hurt or killed.

          And another point you've missed, the war would be on our own soil, American against American.  The "supply of weapons" wouldn't be an issue, really.  They're already here. No need to have them manufactured or shipped in.

          -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

          by gerrilea on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 12:04:24 PM PDT

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