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  •  I don't know. (6+ / 0-)

    For all people say about this heavy oil, it's not as long-term toxic as refined product. Also, by definition, it's thick viscous stuff and doesn't readily sink into the soil very far. Gasoline or diesel pipeline spills, there's your Superfund site. All the octane and lead-replacement supplements they add in the refinery make tar sands oil seem mild. That light stuff just sucks right down into the soil, too.

    That's probably not a copacetic thing to say amongst people who hate the prospect of tar sands development. It's just true. Doesn't address the global warming aspect of tar sands. That's still there. But as far as toxicity and even corrosion potential (in a properly maintained pipeline) tar sands oil is amongst the more benign hydrocarbon liquids moved by truck or pipeline.

    None of the dirt in modern neighborhoods is virgin anyway. It was hauled in from somewhere. Haul it back out of there and haul some more clean dirt in.

    I've just heard that heavy oil pipelines don't have to contribute to the cleanup fun though. That's obviously horse shit and it needs to be changed immediately.

    Another interesting thing is that you can stretch boom across any body of water anywhere near civilization and it will catch some oil over time. Comes from the highways. All those drips (most out of the tailpipes of poorly maintained automobiles, by the way) add up and when it rains they go into the watershed.

    Hydrocarbons pollute. Even without catastrophes, they pollute. No way around it.

    It rubs the loofah on its skin or else it gets the falafel again.

    by Fishgrease on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 08:26:06 PM PDT

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    •  I need to add to this... (2+ / 0-)
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      elwior, mrkvica

      When I say "tar sands oil is amongst the more benign hydrocarbon liquids moved by truck or pipeline" it's not saying it's very benign. Not saying much.

      There are some very nasty liquids moved by truck and pipeline in this country.

      Feedstock to some chemical plants, for instance.

      And some of the chemicals leaving those plants.

      It rubs the loofah on its skin or else it gets the falafel again.

      by Fishgrease on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 04:40:23 AM PDT

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