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  •  Private organizations request NOTAMs (11+ / 0-)

    all the time. This happens most often if there are flight operations being conducted in an area.  

    If a privately owned gliderport is conducting high altitude wave flying operations, a temporary airspace restriction will be issued that may go as high as 50,000 feet and several miles wide around where the mountain wave is working. In those cases, airliners and military aircraft have to stay out of the "window" of flight operations.

    Skydiving groups often request, and are granted, TSA restrictions during operations.

    This diary is promoting a conspiracy theory where there is no conspiracy.  The public may own the airspace, but the FAA controls it.  The modern air traffic control system was established after several high profile mid-air collisions occurred in the late 1940s.

    From the Federal Air Regulations (FAR) Note especially item number 3, which I have bolded:

    3-5-3. Temporary Flight Restrictions

    a. General. This paragraph describes the types of conditions under which the FAA may impose temporary flight restrictions. It also explains which FAA elements have been delegated authority to issue a temporary flight restrictions NOTAM and lists the types of responsible agencies/offices from which the FAA will accept requests to establish temporary flight restrictions. The 14 CFR is explicit as to what operations are prohibited, restricted, or allowed in a temporary flight restrictions area. Pilots are responsible to comply with 14 CFR Sections 91.137, 91.138, 91.141 and 91.143 when conducting flight in an area where a temporary flight restrictions area is in effect, and should check appropriate NOTAMs during flight planning.

    b. The purpose for establishing a temporary flight restrictions area is to:

    1. Protect persons and property in the air or on the surface from an existing or imminent hazard associated with an incident on the surface when the presence of low flying aircraft would magnify, alter, spread, or compound that hazard (14 CFR Section 91.137(a)(1));

    2. Provide a safe environment for the operation of disaster relief aircraft (14 CFR Section 91.137(a)(2)); or

    3. Prevent an unsafe congestion of sightseeing aircraft above an incident or event which may generate a high degree of public interest (14 CFR Section 91.137(a)(3)).

    4. Protect declared national disasters for humanitarian reasons in the State of Hawaii (14 CFR Section 91.138).

    5. Protect the President, Vice President, or other public figures (14 CFR Section 91.141).

    6. Provide a safe environment for space agency operations (14 CFR Section 91.143).

    The general who wins the battle makes many calculations in his temple before the battle is fought. The general who loses makes but few calculations beforehand. - Sun Tzu

    by Otteray Scribe on Thu Apr 04, 2013 at 04:06:52 AM PDT

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    •  Thank you. (6+ / 0-)

      This is a very informative and reasoned response.  

      "You have attributed conditions to villainy that simply result from stupidity"

      by newfie on Thu Apr 04, 2013 at 04:33:56 AM PDT

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    •  who enforces this? (4+ / 0-)
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      FAA or the requesting party, who decides if an aircraft is violating the air space, who is the contact person for information about the restriction, normally?

      •  If an aircraft bores a hole in a restricted area (2+ / 0-)
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        the nearest ATC should know about it in real time if the aircraft is transponder equipped. The transponder will inform ATC of the aircraft's identity, altitude and flight path. If no radar tracking, anyone on the ground who sees them can report it to the FAA. In some cases, there will be an FAA inspector observer on the ground to monitor both permitted and non-permitted aircraft. If an aircraft violates restricted airspace of any kind, the aircrew can expect to do some serious explaining to an FAA inspector.

        In the past, depending on the severity of the violation, an offender can expect anything from a written reprimand to a fine and loss of pilot's license.  If the TSA is the airspace around the President or Vice-President, a pilot who wanders into that TSA will be escorted to the nearest airport by a couple of F-16s. That gets a conversation with both the FAA and the Secret Service.

        The company manager on the ground has the responsibility to inform the FAA when they are finished with flight operations in the TSA. However, in the event of a situation such as described in 14 CFR Section 91.137(a)(3)), the FAA may (and probably will) keep the TFR in place so there are not two dozen small airplanes trying to occupy the small airspace at the same time.  Aerial rubberneckers are just as much a hazard as those who ogle motor vehicle wrecks and don't pay attention to where they are going.

        3. Prevent an unsafe congestion of sightseeing aircraft above an incident or event which may generate a high degree of public interest (14 CFR Section 91.137(a)(3)).
        A new NOTAM will be issued revoking the previous one, once the FAA determines it safe to do so. That determination is not made by the company conducting the operation, but the FAA itself.

        The general who wins the battle makes many calculations in his temple before the battle is fought. The general who loses makes but few calculations beforehand. - Sun Tzu

        by Otteray Scribe on Thu Apr 04, 2013 at 08:41:38 AM PDT

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        •  Unless you're Sen. James Inhofe (R-Kamikaze) (0+ / 0-)

          blowing a landing op at KPIL.

          If an aircraft violates restricted airspace of any kind, the aircrew can expect to do some serious explaining to an FAA inspector.

          "Double, double, toile and trouble; Fire burne, and Cauldron bubble... By the pricking of my Thumbes, Something wicked this way comes": Republicans!!. . Willkommen im Vierten Reich! Sie haben keine Bedeutung mehr.

          by Bluefin on Thu Apr 04, 2013 at 02:00:40 PM PDT

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    •  At no point did I deny any of that. (0+ / 0-)

      What I denied is the implicit claim that because the FAA is in charge that makes the airspace non-public.

      Someone can legitimately use the phrase "public airspace" even though the FAA exists - for the exact same reason someone can use the phrase "public airwaves" even though the FCC exists.

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