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  •  I get you and agree with you on the punch-card (0+ / 0-)

    argument/law.

    Even if you're not an IC, you can be strictly draw/commission, but then you wouldn't need to punch the time clock, would you? I assume they do that at the dealership so you can't sell 3 cars in one day and then not show up till next week...which is a luxury an outside salesperson can afford.

    I see what you did there.

    by GoGoGoEverton on Thu Apr 04, 2013 at 08:47:01 AM PDT

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    •  heh - selling three cars a day is no guarantee (3+ / 0-)
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      kyril, high uintas, Tinfoil Hat

      for the next 30 days.  i HAVE sold as many as five in one day - and still had a rotten month.  folks seem to think that sales reps make a ton of money - it ain't so.  even on luxury cars, the top commission is rarely over $250 - and, considering selling 8 cars a month was a high number (many sales reps had only 3-5 cars per week, some only 5 per month) where the commission might only be $75 - $150 - do the math!  that went against the "draw" - and most reps were lucky to pull anything OVER that draw (of $1000 to $2500/month, depending on the dealership)

      the second dealership i worked, i made a total of $1,100 for one month - i made JUST minimum wage - no sales, slow month and i was the new kid without an established customer base at that dealership).

      so, when you're beating down the car salesperson for the "best" price, remember, it is the sales commission that is eaten first!  we got commission based on how much over the cost of the vehicle - and when we sold below cost (frequently done to make the quarterly numbers), we saw only a pittance of a commission.

      it's an ugly business from the sales reps' perspective as much as the customer's.  i was successful because i laid everything out on the table - the actual cost to the dealership and explained why we needed a certain percent to stay in business and where it went.  my customers respected that and respected that i was there for them with any problems they might have - from user training to vehicle issues.  they got their money's worth when i sold them a car.

      all said, i don't think i'd do it again - it was brutal - 8:30am to 7pm average day and then there were the 8:30am to 11:30 pm exceptions (like christmas eve with one jerkoff customer who was determined to save just another $200 - then went home to "think" about it.  he came back two days later and i gave away half the sale to another rep - told the rep if i had to face the bastard, i might just run him over with the vehicle!)  he came back to buy another car a few months later - i walked off on him and gave him to the same rep.  didn't want the money that badly.

      EdriesShop Is it kind? is it true? is it necessary?

      by edrie on Thu Apr 04, 2013 at 09:17:41 AM PDT

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