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  •  Meh, the president spent much of his first (3+ / 0-)

    term pandering to the false altar of bipartisanship.

    If you consider some recent rhetoric to the contrary to redeem all that, I guess that is a matter of opinion that we differ on.

    •  Kind of hard not too (2+ / 0-)
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      jiffypop, NedSparks

      In a country where the GOP has a natural R+2 advantage in house districts no matter how you gerrymander or un-gerrymander.

      It's not 1932.

      •  And how do you think they get the advantage? (2+ / 0-)
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        ActivistGuy, divineorder

        Could it be because if the average voter has the choice between an ersatz and real Republican, they'll go for the real one almost every time?

        •  Old sophisms (0+ / 0-)

          You're really trying very hard to cram a difficult problem into an easy solution (sounds of bully pulpit harder!), probably because you've never had a conversation with these people. Step outside the Digby bubble.

          •  A reference point is George W Bush (3+ / 0-)
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            BradyB, NoFortunateSon, PorridgeGun

            who subscribed to some very unpopular positions, but was able to push them through by showing steadfast devotion to them.

            For one reason or another, people eat up that approach.

            Just saying, why can we on the left try it at least once?

            •  I'm not sure you want Obama to end up like W (0+ / 0-)

              But let's recall that George W. Bush ended up with 27% approval rating.

              I sympathize with your point. It would feel good, right?

              But the truth is, George W.'s ability to cram through legislation was vastly overrated. Let's remember the collapse that began immediately after his reelection, and the supposed "capital" he earned for finally winning a vote.

              SS privatization crashed and burned, and the remainder of his second term domestic legislation (Medicare Part E, No Child Left Behind) were anathema to most conservatives. Really, the only legislation he passed were his tax cuts and WoT related to September 11.

              And that's with controlling all three branches of government for most of his term.

              •  How does that possibly matter? (3+ / 0-)
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                divineorder, maryabein, RJDixon74135
                But let's recall that George W. Bush ended up with 27% approval rating.
                Considering that all the big issues that he and his billionaire backers were cemented in stone.

                For example, his tax cuts have almost entirely been made permanent.

                His education policies have if anything been doubled down on by the Obama administration.

                His torture, foreign policy, Gitmo, surveillence, etc policies have also been embraced and if "doubled down on" at least  extended enthusiastically by the Obama administration.

                Similarly, Obama's energy policies are more or less exactly what a third term Bush Administration would have put forward.

                I could go on, but there's really no point.

                About the only issue that I see daylight between the Obama and Bush administrations is Supreme Court nominees - which of course is important.

                But nevertheless, it is just a tad disappointing that that is the only thing to be pro-Obama about.

            •  Bush had total control for most of his term (0+ / 0-)

              Obama has been stymied almost his whole term while Bush had total republican control his first 6 years. Until he overreached with SS he got everything he wanted.

              •  No, not really (1+ / 0-)
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                maryabein

                once Jeffords defected from the GOP in 2001 that was not the case.

                Although in reality it was, with a goodly number of Dems quite literally falling all over themselves to support W's fiscal and war policies.

                The bottom line is that if the Dems had played hardball like the Repubs are now, they could have blocked every single Bush initiative because the GOP * never * had the veto-proof 60 seat majority in the senate.

    •  Meh, the President has accomplished many things (1+ / 0-)
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      NoFortunateSon

      and was resoundingly re-elected because Americans didn't see him as a failure, but who cares? Any energy spent criticizing sabotaging Republicans and their wrecking of the nation due to political opportunism is energy that could be spent criticizing Obama, with winning arguments such as he don't get the urgency of the "human factor".  

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