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  •  The "mental health" rhetoric also ascribes (6+ / 0-)

    to psychiatry powers that it simply doesn't have -- for instance the power to predict who will or will not become violent, or the power to eradicate destructive impulses in those who suffer from them.

    Yes, if you are mentally ill, your prognosis is better and your chance of harming yourself or others is lower if you are under treatment -- lower, but not zero. This is even assuming treatment will be sought in the first place: for some the onset of psychosis is sudden, and others are able to conceal their symptoms until they have completely broken from reality.

    I entirely agree with the proposition that our mental health care infrastructure is in a dismal state and needs great improvement, but I seriously doubt that doing so would curtail mass shootings by very much given the factors I've mentioned. If you want these events to stop happening, the only way for sure is to restrict access to the kinds of firearms that make them possible.

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    by eataTREE on Thu Apr 04, 2013 at 11:16:20 AM PDT

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    •  I have to agree with you. (2+ / 0-)
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      But I also think that having someone who has ready access to a thing or things that were designed primarily to kill "check in" with a shrink once and a while is a good thing. If for no other reason than it might cut down on the number of successful suicide attempts.

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      by HugoDog on Thu Apr 04, 2013 at 11:59:45 AM PDT

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    •  What, you're not in favor... (1+ / 0-)
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      Of mandatory monthly check ups with your local federally paid psychologist, and random bloodtests of all medicated patients to make sure they are taking their meds?  Because that's where the "fix the mental health system" road ends.  

      And of course the people who say that mocked the likes of Dennis Kucinich, who was one of the only Democrats running for universal health care that included mental and dental.  

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