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  •  And now you're trolling (19+ / 0-)

    Some joker put this diary on the rec list; you may want to reconsider further content-free inflammatory comments. Might get seen by a few people for once.

    We demanded a plan to reduce gun violence. Now it's time to demand a vote.

    by tytalus on Thu Apr 04, 2013 at 11:39:59 AM PDT

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    •  May they also note your pompous and pious posts (2+ / 0-)
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      happymisanthropy, FrankRose

      The parent post to this chain being a prime example.  Clearly, though, if your anti arguments were so veracious and unfeigned you might actually be getting somewhere other than in a handful of states that were already renown for absurd gun laws.

      With any luck they will also see that, your (not always tacitly) implied notion of believing that the defending the rights of all citizens under the constitution is a "right wing" endeavor.  

      •  Oh, all right then, dig away :) (13+ / 0-)

        I take it you haven't learned this yet, but like the others you have no power to rile me. The trick is to assign the proper value to your opinions. Yeah, I bet if I examine the history of gun laws in Colorado they'll just look downright absurd.

        We demanded a plan to reduce gun violence. Now it's time to demand a vote.

        by tytalus on Thu Apr 04, 2013 at 12:05:24 PM PDT

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        •  Yeah, Colorado is fairly absurd...to the NRA. (16+ / 0-)

          Thanks to Clytemnestra for the link.

          Several states have adopted their own prohibitions on straw purchasing. For example, California prohibits any person, corporation or dealer from selling, loaning, or transferring a firearm to: 1) any person he or she knows or has cause to believe is not the actual purchaser or transferee of the firearm; or 2) any person who is not the person actually being loaned the firearm, if the person, corporation, or dealer has either: a) knowledge that the firearm is to be subsequently loaned, sold, or transferred to avoid gun transfer requirements under California law; or b) knowledge that the firearm is to be subsequently loaned, sold, or transferred to avoid the requirements of any exemption to gun transfer requirements under California law.21

          Illinois prohibits any person:

              From knowingly purchasing or attempting to purchase a firearm with the intent to deliver that firearm to another person who is prohibited by federal or state law from possessing a firearm; and22

              In purchasing or attempting to purchase a firearm, from intentionally providing false or misleading information on an ATF firearms transaction record form.23

          Other states that specifically prohibit straw purchasing include Colorado,24 Delaware,25 Maryland,26 Nebraska,27 Ohio28 and Oregon.29

          In 2008, Pennsylvania established a “Straw Purchase Prevention Education Program,” within the state Attorney General’s office to provide resources and direct grant money to the “Don’t Lie for the Other Guy Program” and similar programs that offer straw purchase prevention education.30

          And even my old home state of PA has a program to prevent straw purchasing, how ridiculous is that! Must be on the GOP's agenda to trash that this year.

          We demanded a plan to reduce gun violence. Now it's time to demand a vote.

          by tytalus on Thu Apr 04, 2013 at 12:16:09 PM PDT

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      •  Keep digging (13+ / 0-)

        It's going so well.

        There is so much wrong with your comment it's hard to know where to start ....

        1. There was nothing either pompous or pious about the Diary.

        2. We are not advancing "anti-gun" arguments. The whole thrust of proposed legislation is about gun safety.

        3. The States with modest gun-control laws are ahead of the argument, and bravely leading the way. We need more of those legislators in Congress.

        4. Which laws are "absurd"? Heavens, there are few enough of them.

        5. The Constitution makes no comment as to how the right is to be governed. Indeed, Justice Scalia (not a noted Liberal), himself suggested that laws in this area could indeed be constitutional.

        Try again.

        I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
        but I fear we will remain Democrats.

        Who is twigg?

        by twigg on Thu Apr 04, 2013 at 01:41:58 PM PDT

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