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  •  I'm a socialist. Ecosocialist, to be specific. (5+ / 0-)

    There are, indeed, many forms of socialism. But they have two key components:

    Democracy and the people own the means of production.

    No nation-state has ever attempted real socialism, because no nation has brought those two keys together.

    The Russian revolution ended up being stuck in State Capitalism, and never moved onto real socialism. The people never owned the means of production, and there was no democracy. Same thing, unfortunately, happened with every leftist revolution -- for many reasons. Mostly, they failed to heed Marx's advice of starting a socialist revolution in an advanced economy, so they would avoid "socializing scarcity." His words. Thatcher and others didn't come up with it, etc.

    Also, the Capitalist West immediately did everything it could to crush the nascent revolution, including starting civil wars, embargoing those nations, etc. Which turned them inward and forced autocracy. The relentless threat from outside, along with the near-feudal origins of those countries, made it all but impossible to move past State Capitalism into real socialism.

    Closest thing we have to the real deal? Scandinavia. And they're still not that close.

    Personally, I think socialism is the most humane, ethical, moral and fair system ever put down on paper. Tragically, it's never been put in place in the real world. To me, those who scream against it and condemn it actually condemn real freedom, real emancipation, real fairness and social justice.

    •  Thanks for adding some nuance to past "socialist" (2+ / 0-)

      attempts.  

      “... there is no shame in not knowing. The problem arises when irrational thought and attendant behavior fill the vacuum left by ignorance.” ― Neil deGrasse Tyson, The Sky Is Not the Limit: Adventures of an Urban Astrophysicist

      by leema on Thu Apr 04, 2013 at 05:43:01 PM PDT

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