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  •  I did say suspect, rather than assume. (3+ / 0-)
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    I rather hope we're not, actually.  I'd like to see a society that would temporarily elevate leaders based on applicable skills for specific problems and shift leadership when the situation shifts.

    If that's possible, I suspect it will take a radical shift in thinking to accomplish it; nothing so simple as 'just' more advocacy.

    At least half the future I've been expecting hasn't gotten here yet. Sigh.... (Yes, there's gender bias in my name; no, I wasn't thinking about it when I signed up. My apologies.)

    by serendipityisabitch on Fri Apr 05, 2013 at 12:32:14 AM PDT

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    •  I'm often flippant (2+ / 0-)
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      I just want people to realize that while it isn't that simple, it also can be. It is a radical shift, but at the same time, it can be the same thing as people realizing that gay people should have the same marriage rights as hets. Do we accept equality everywhere? Not just in terms of state granted rights, but in terms of us having a right to exist? Having a right to determine the conditions of our own access to food? Shelter? Medical care? Education?

      It's more difficult with the latter because they are tied to the exploitative economic order that has always existed in a way that marriage equality isn't, but it is the same basic principle.

      •  Accepting equality isn't enough. (2+ / 0-)
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        You have to be able to also accept inequality - of training, skills, physical abilities, even basic intellect.  And of resources, of various kinds.  

        And whatever the system, it has to work in scarcity as well as abundance, which is usually where things fall apart.

        Watch out for any system that seems to guarantee rights that has never had to cope with a famine.

        At least half the future I've been expecting hasn't gotten here yet. Sigh.... (Yes, there's gender bias in my name; no, I wasn't thinking about it when I signed up. My apologies.)

        by serendipityisabitch on Fri Apr 05, 2013 at 04:46:06 AM PDT

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        •  While it is true that (0+ / 0-)

          there is inequality of ability in an absolute biological sense, I think that also implies the question of 'ability to do what?'. Equality doesn't mean we all do the same thing equally - it means we treat each other & order our society so that each can be and 'end in themselves'. True human freedom is the ability to pursue and develop ones abilities - whatever they may be.

          Further, I don't buy that scarcity exists - especially within our current level of technological development. Scarcity is created to enslave the vast population of this planet to the few - it is created to reify an aristocratic hierarchy that governs our world. There is no shortage of food, shelter, energy - everything we need to live full lives. There are shortages created so that we have to sell ourselves to obtain such things. There will never be a global famine unless we screw up the planet entirely.

          •  Well, here we must part company. (0+ / 0-)

            Because, IMHO, no matter what causes it, or why, and whether it's on a local or a global level, if you're going to put together a new system, it has to be able to deal with scarcity - real, or only imagined - without falling apart.

            As for your last point - "There will never be a global famine unless we screw up the planet entirely." - well, climate change has the capacity to do that job pretty easily.  

            If you're actually trying to accomplish a transition to a different system, downplaying the real difficulties doesn't help.

            At least half the future I've been expecting hasn't gotten here yet. Sigh.... (Yes, there's gender bias in my name; no, I wasn't thinking about it when I signed up. My apologies.)

            by serendipityisabitch on Fri Apr 05, 2013 at 11:53:03 AM PDT

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