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  •  a computer? (0+ / 0-)

    Are you suggesting that police officers use some kind of face recognition technology to plug in plate number data?

    I don't think so.

    Some people get pulled over a lot more than others. Whether they are drunk or not. I'm guessing that you one of the later.

    If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear right?

    pfft.

    •  And yet, drunk driving checkpoints... (5+ / 0-)

      ...were found constitutional in 1990 by the Supreme Court. (Some states have found them unconstitutional with regards to state constitutions.) Even absent any other probable cause, checking if a driver is sober is not considered an unreasonable search according to the 4th Amendment.

      What do you think the officer should have done, once the officer determined that the driver's plates did match his car, but that he was driving while intoxicated?

      Do you think the officer should have let the driver go on his merry way, knowing that the driver could have killed someone because he was driving drunk?

      "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

      by JamesGG on Sat Apr 06, 2013 at 02:43:29 PM PDT

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      •  James - I have never understood how (0+ / 0-)

        checkpoints ever passed constitutional muster.  Checkpoints would seem to be unconstitutional on their face. What is the probably cause? However, I do understand that in most states they are legal.

        "let's talk about that"

        by VClib on Sat Apr 06, 2013 at 09:51:26 PM PDT

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    •  Face recognition? What? (5+ / 0-)

      If you're asking whether police use optical character recognition devices to check license plate numbers, I can assure you that many of them do. There are hand-held cameras that you can point at the back of a car, and it will read the license plate and enter it into a computer that will look up the details.

      What do I think about that? Well, I'm a bit ambivalent. On the one hand, it's kind of creepy. But on the other hand, it does cut down on the number of times policemen smash into other cars or run over pedestrians because they are trying to enter license plate numbers while driving.

      •  i did not know this. (1+ / 0-)
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        and I would not have a problem with this case if that is what had happened.

      •  I got a parking ticket for a day that I could (0+ / 0-)

        prove I was not even on campus, and they excuse they gave me all the way up through various supervisors was "our software looks at a range of numbers..." and apparently that means they just send out bills almost randomly, assuming that parents will pay the bill so their kid can graduate. Not being your typical undergrad, I fought it until they let go of the bill, but I'm sure it happened to plenty of people.

        •  I got pulled over for making eye contact (1+ / 0-)
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          w/a cop going in the opposite direction.  He turned around.
          Pulled me over and said "'we made eye contact, you know I had to pull you over".  He ticketed me for some absurd violation. The judge smiled when I told him what the cop said and asked me if I'd settle for a parking ticket instead.

          "I freed a thousand slaves, I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves" Harriet Tubman

          by BrianParker14 on Sat Apr 06, 2013 at 08:51:53 PM PDT

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    •  License Plate Scanners... (4+ / 0-)
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      side pocket, kurt, Clem Yeobright, BvueDem

      This video was made in Canada. More recently, these systems have begun to see use in the United States to quickly pick out vehicles without insurance, unregistered, reported stolen, involved in crimes, etc... that have been entered into a database.

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      by hotdamn on Sat Apr 06, 2013 at 03:17:22 PM PDT

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      •  The Golden Gate Bridge (7+ / 0-)

        just this week eliminated all toll takers. If you don't have "fasttrac" so the computer can deduct the toll from your account, they take a photo of your license plate and send you a bill. I will be testing this system in one hour. Let's see if they know where license  DLY KOS lives.

        Ceiling Cat rules....srsly.

        by side pocket on Sat Apr 06, 2013 at 03:28:43 PM PDT

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        •  I do love that Fastrak! (1+ / 0-)
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          Riding over the Benicia Bridge, you don't even have to slow down: they have two lanes where pass holders can just drive through at full speed (65+). If your transponder's not active for whatever reason, they just deduct it from your credit or debit card.

          I'm not pleased at all about the GG Bridge toll takers losing their jobs, though. That's a very raw deal, to close all tollbooths entirely and go full electronic collection.

      •  License plate scanners everywhere (1+ / 0-)
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        http://www.radioworks.ca/... "ALPR plate-reads can be kept for weeks, months, or years, for future investigative data mining"

        http://www.daywireless.com/..."Besides alerting the officer when he passes a vehicle of interest, an ALPR system equipped with GPS can quietly note the time and location the vehicle was passed. This data is then loaded into PIPS’ Back Office System Software (BOSS®) and then mined and cross-referenced to keep tabs on known drug dealers, terrorist suspects, organized crime figures, or crime patterns."

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