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  •  It's not necessary to reject Christ's "divinity" (11+ / 0-)

    .. to make your points. Even if Jesus were a/the Son of God, a Grand Master of some sort, a truly supernatural being beyond our understanding, it would not change his message, and would not excuse what the religion has done to destroy the message and excuse the act of doing so by deifying the messenger. (If He's alive, He must be so pissed.)

    I have no evidence about Christ's divinity or powers of course, just saying that your point should stand just as strongly (maybe moreso!) with people who believe he is/was divine.

    If you can find money to kill people, you can find money to help people. --Tony Benn

    by rhetoricus on Sun Apr 07, 2013 at 09:49:05 AM PDT

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    •  Jesus created the Perfect Church, (1+ / 0-)
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      then took off and left humans in charge to muck up the works.

      If you look at the early Church (regular gatherings to share meals, "holding all things in common", designating members to determine the needs of the less fortunate, etc.), it has an almost Marxist feel. It could be argued that the worst thing that happened was when Constantine co-opted Christianity; instead of being on the outside, it now became part of the ruling structure and that's when the corruption started. Sure, there was no more worry about getting thrown to the lions or crucified or the like...but it became less likely to challenge the status quo in order to keep its status, and thus it was "safe." Jesus never took the "safe" route.

      There's only one rule that I know of, babies -- goddammit, you've got to be kind. -- Kurt Vonnegut

      by Cali Scribe on Sun Apr 07, 2013 at 03:05:11 PM PDT

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