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  •  Couldn't you just as easily bet another way? (5+ / 0-)
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    Here's how I would play the gamble.

    If there is a god, then my brain was given to me with full functionality and, at least, the aura of independent thought.  

    If God gave me this brain, and I use this brain to  determine that there is no need for the invention of a God to satisfy the mysteries of creation, then I have done what that God intended.  

    Likewise, if God is loving and good, and if god gave me this brain, then why would I be arbitrarily punished for some transgression of a vague moral principle that was written down four thousand years ago? Especially when the book that holds that moral principle has been show to have numerous, human driven, factual inaccuracies, and extremely questionable moral lessons.  

    Your bet- believe in something.  If it's true, then you are with a father who you will never leave, and who will never allow you to truly grow up and become independent.

    My bet- Use the free thinking brain I have to analyze the possibility of this God, or any other god.  If God is truly good, then he will understand that the time I have on Earth is what it is, and that I am living in an age when we do have an understanding of the physical realities of the world around us.  Only a tyrannical parent would punish their kids so severely for the mere action of having a free thinking mind.  

    Streichholzschächtelchen

    by otto on Sun Apr 07, 2013 at 11:41:17 AM PDT

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    •  You overthink this (4+ / 0-)
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      Nothing prevents me from having independent thought or free will.

      I have chosen to have faith - it helps me to live my life.

      Nothing in my faith precludes accepting the theory of evolution or the Higgs Bosun particle, or any other of the myriad of theories advance to explain our universe.

      Remember how Newton came up with universal laws, only to have them turned inside out by Einstein's theory of relativity and his work on the Unified Theory (which in turn is made iffy by quantum mechanics theory).

      Science itself still has too many mysteries to be the conclusive answer to the universe and its wonders.

      Since everything is still a mystery, there is room for faith in those who seek the answer to everything.

      In a sense, the whole idea of questioning another's faith, whether in a deity or in rationality, is silly. The only way to prove who is right is to die. Instead, we should just choose what we want to believe in and just leave everyone else alone to choose their own philosophy of life.

      The foolish and the dead alone never change their opinions. James Russell Lowell

      by Serendipity on Sun Apr 07, 2013 at 01:54:22 PM PDT

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      •  You misrepresent my opionon (0+ / 0-)

        I don't question anyone's faith.  I have no doubt they have it.  

        I question the entire reason to have faith.  I see the type of faith that believers have as being counter productive an useless.  

        So I don't question anyone who has faith.  I question the entire point of believing in something that shows no material reason to be believe in.  

        ANd it's not overthought. It's the same point that has been made by many people over the years.  It's not even an original thought.  I may have come to it on my own, but it existed before me.

        From reading your response, it seems to me you haven't read the book in question.
         

        Streichholzschächtelchen

        by otto on Mon Apr 08, 2013 at 05:47:21 AM PDT

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