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  •  It looks like there is no point in even having (1+ / 0-)
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    this discussion.  If you say the answer is absolutely not, then I will do the opposite.  You can fight for a curtailing of gun rights and I will fight for an expansion of them.  In your reply, I see a bunch of anti-gun statements, that while I realize you believe them to be true and factual, I see as nonsense garbage.

    Several states, such as mine, are finally eliminating the restrictions on carry in schools.  As a school (college) employee, this impacts me directly and I very much welcome the change.

    •  umm, since when does this have to do with (3+ / 0-)
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      gun rights outside of school?  You are arguing for expanding where guns can be carried and justifying it by Newtown, Edelman and I are saying that is not an answer to Newtown nor will it make schools any safer.

      "We didn't set out to save the world; we set out to wonder how other people are doing and to reflect on how our actions affect other people's hearts." - Pema Chodron

      by teacherken on Sun Apr 07, 2013 at 09:45:37 AM PDT

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      •  On the contrary, I think the school GFZ makes (0+ / 0-)

        things less safe.  I work at a school (university).  It is in a very affluent town and is uber Liberal to the point where they have signs up about town regarding it being a GFZ.  That hasn't done a damned thing to stop the armed robbery, rape, murder, and burglary / home invasion that runs rampant around the area.  

        I am not trying to justify anything.  I am saying it is time to put a stop to the Schools = GFZ nonsense.  While I am not as radical in this regard as the NRA, I do think we should allow those who are willing, to take the training and obtain the certifications necessary to allow them to carry in educational environments.  In other word, not a mandatory arm the teachers, but a withdrawal of the forced disarmament.  Currently, a GFZ tells criminals that it is a safe hunting ground.  Allowing licensed individuals adds uncertainty into the equation and may make some criminals think twice.  Mountains of data has shown people with CC licenses a being problematic is exceptionally rare.  We should be using this to our advantage.

        •  I have worked in an inner city school (3+ / 0-)

          as well as one in a mixe environment as well as a suburban one.  I am flatly going to say having them gun free is of critical importance,particularly at athletic events where things can get very heated.

          "We didn't set out to save the world; we set out to wonder how other people are doing and to reflect on how our actions affect other people's hearts." - Pema Chodron

          by teacherken on Sun Apr 07, 2013 at 03:40:24 PM PDT

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          •  If you believe that, then you clearly do not (0+ / 0-)

            understand the mentality and mindset required for carrying a concealed weapon in public, which makes your position on the matter more understandable.  When one carries a gun, they can no longer allow themselves to act, or react that way.  The news has plenty of examples of idiots with guns and it is still exceptionally rare for one of them to be a licensed individual, which says a lot about the mindset and mentality of those who choose to make that commitment.

            •  oh I understand it (2+ / 0-)

              from a federal elected official with a concealed carry permit

              from family in law enforcement at a federal level

              from friends in law enforcement in state and local levels

              and none of them seem to think that guns should be in schools

              "We didn't set out to save the world; we set out to wonder how other people are doing and to reflect on how our actions affect other people's hearts." - Pema Chodron

              by teacherken on Sun Apr 07, 2013 at 06:38:21 PM PDT

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    •  An elementary school is a quite different place (0+ / 0-)

      from a college campus.

      Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

      by elfling on Sun Apr 07, 2013 at 10:47:53 PM PDT

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