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  •  The UK seems to be doing better (1+ / 0-)
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    than most of Europe.

    Let her body cool down before you start bashing....

    Pretty pathetic.

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    by ctexrep on Mon Apr 08, 2013 at 05:54:13 AM PDT

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    •  She's been out of office for over 20 years (3+ / 0-)
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      Kickemout, roycej, Debby

      what does she have to do with the problems of today?  

      The best thing the UK did was to stay out of the euro.  Yet they still are in worse shape than Germany and, arguably, France.

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      by Paleo on Mon Apr 08, 2013 at 06:24:46 AM PDT

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      •  are you f'king kidding? what does she have to do (0+ / 0-)

        with today's right wing bullshit being called 'moderate' and 'centrist' and 'bipartisan' in gawd's country,

        and being called whatever it is called by the yuppie DLC lying clone sell outs in merry old England?

        I'm 53 - are you ... 23? You missed the last 30 years of fucking cowards disgracing the concept of Democratic leader cuz Maggie Thatcher and Ronnie Raygun created a new phantasy up-by-your-bootstraps tale of 2 cities every month?

        Oh yeah, and the spawn of Ronnie and Maggie NEVER dropped the baton handoff. and ONLY moved the goal posts further right?  

        wow.  

        IF you're under 30, PLEASE get educated.

        IF you're over 30 - keep voting for your lying fucking sell outs, you deserve 'em.

        rmm.

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        by seabos84 on Mon Apr 08, 2013 at 04:22:48 PM PDT

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    •  because they stayed out of the eurozone, (5+ / 0-)
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      mmacdDE, roycej, Chi, tommymet, quill

      and that was a decision taken under a Labour government, long after Thatcher had left office.

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      by limpidglass on Mon Apr 08, 2013 at 06:30:41 AM PDT

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      •  Actually (1+ / 0-)
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        Thatcher took the UK into the Exchange Rate Mechanism which was the precursor to monetary union and the proposed Ecu (European Currency Unit).

        It was her successor John Major who was forced to withdraw from the ERM on "Black Wednesday" in 1992

        The Treasury took the decision to defend Sterling's position, believing that to devalue would be to promote inflation.[6] On 16 September the British government announced a rise in the base interest rate from an already high 10 to 12 percent in order to tempt speculators to buy pounds. Despite this and a promise later the same day to raise base rates again to 15 percent, dealers kept selling pounds, convinced that the government would not stick with its promise. By 19:00 that evening, Norman Lamont, then Chancellor, announced Britain would leave the ERM and rates would remain at the new level of 12 percent (however, on the next day interest rate was back on 10%). It was later revealed that the decision to withdraw had been agreed at an emergency meeting during the day between Norman Lamont, Prime Minister John Major, Foreign Secretary Douglas Hurd, President of the Board of Trade Michael Heseltine and Home Secretary Kenneth Clarke (the latter three all being strong pro-Europeans as well as senior Cabinet Ministers), and that the interest rate hike to 15 percent had only been a temporary measure to prevent a rout in the pound that afternoon.

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        by Lib Dem FoP on Mon Apr 08, 2013 at 03:26:51 PM PDT

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    •  "The UK seems to be doing better?" (6+ / 0-)
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      Chi, Paleo, Debby, fenway49, limpidglass, seabos84

      Are you referring to the double-dip recession, the gutting of social welfare, the slow dismantlement of the NHS, the high unemployment (particularly for the young)?

      And my baby's my common sense, so don't feed me planned obsolescence.

      by vadasz on Mon Apr 08, 2013 at 07:21:24 AM PDT

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