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  •  Jana Winter is reporter (4+ / 0-)
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    and a crappy one at that. I met her at last year's DNC at the bar where many of the delegates were staying (the crappy Blake Hotel). She was trolling for scandal at the bar pumping us for information about other delegates; searching for gossip while downing glass after glass of wine (they were actually acrylic because of the pool side aspect of the bar). She showed up every night - trying to get whatever dirt she could.
    I wouldn't dignify her with the title of reporter - more of a gossip columnist that writes for the Internet version of the Fox republican propaganda wing. She's written lots of crap in the past. Do a search on for her past "articles" and see what I mean. I wouldn't lift a finger for an Internet pest like her. She told me she went to Columbia School of Journalism. If she did then Columbia failed us all (in full disclosure - I graduated from Columbia's School of International and Public Affairs -SIPA).
    I respect Meteor Blades, but I'm not doing anything to support Winter.

    •  The point is not to support Winter (10+ / 0-)

      the point -- I believe -- is to support the principle.  Two different things, though sometimes hard to separate, I'll admit.

      Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

      by a gilas girl on Mon Apr 08, 2013 at 03:16:43 PM PDT

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      •  If you read her "work" you'll see she's (2+ / 0-)
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        not much for employing journalistic standards, something that might protect her. Instead she employes her employer's tactics of innuendo, false equivalencies and other nonsense. In my opinion you have to be a journalist to invoke journalistic shield. Defending her implies she's a journalist, something so far from the truth it's painful.

        •  well... there is that (shrug) (2+ / 0-)
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          ...but I'm one who tends to think in this case the underlying principle is far more important than the individual person who may or may not be the best exemplar of the profession.  


          Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

          by a gilas girl on Mon Apr 08, 2013 at 06:31:37 PM PDT

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          •  Famous 1st amendment case protected Larry Flynt (0+ / 0-)

            There was a famous SCOTUS case many years ago in which the court found in favor of Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine in a lawsuit brought against Flynt by Jerry Falwell.

            If the law protects Larry Flynt and Hustler, it might as well protect Hustler's moral equivalent, Fox News.


            Hustler Magazine v. Falwell

            A lead story in the November 1983 issue of Hustler Magazine featured a "parody" of an advertisement, modeled after an actual ad campaign, claiming that Falwell, a Fundamentalist minister and political leader, had a drunken incestuous relationship with his mother in an outhouse. Falwell sued to recover damages for libel, invasion of privacy, and intentional infliction of emotional distress. Falwell won a jury verdict on the emotional distress claim and was awarded a total of $150,000 in damages. Hustler Magazine appealed.

            . . .

            In a unanimous opinion the Court held that public figures, such as Jerry Falwell, may not recover for the intentional infliction of emotional distress without showing that the offending publication contained a false statement of fact which was made with "actual malice." The Court added that the interest of protecting free speech, under the First Amendment, surpassed the state's interest in protecting public figures from patently offensive speech, so long as such speech could not reasonably be construed to state actual facts about its subject.

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            by MJB on Mon Apr 08, 2013 at 11:14:29 PM PDT

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      •  It's easy to support a principle (4+ / 0-)
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        when you agree with the underlying aspect of it. Supporting free speach for someone protesting war or bank rip offs is quite easy. Supporting the Westborough Baptist Church's right to protest funerals or schools is when you get to see how much you really support free speach.

        Most of the people taking a hard line against us are firmly convinced that they are the last defenders of civilization... The last stronghold of mother, God, home and apple pie and they're full of shit! David Crosby, Journey Thru the Past.

        by Mike S on Mon Apr 08, 2013 at 03:29:33 PM PDT

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    •  Figures. (0+ / 0-)

      She wouldn't miss a beat if given the chance to destroy some poor schmuck delegate's life.

      "Michael Moore, who was filming a movie about corporate welfare called 'Capitalism: A Love Story,' sought and received incentives."

      by Bush Bites on Mon Apr 08, 2013 at 07:07:47 PM PDT

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    •  She's a real piece of work, isn't she? (2+ / 0-)
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      Winter had been writing articles about how ACORN, the group of community organizers that ceased to exist more than a year ago, was secretly still operating and was behind the Occupy Wall Street protests. Her stories were obvious fabrications that posed absurd theories wherein the bankrupt ACORN could somehow afford to pay homeless people tens of thousands of dollars to attend rallies that were already populated by thousands of genuine protesters who attended for free.

      "Michael Moore, who was filming a movie about corporate welfare called 'Capitalism: A Love Story,' sought and received incentives."

      by Bush Bites on Mon Apr 08, 2013 at 07:19:56 PM PDT

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    •  With all due respect, even "crappy" reporters are (0+ / 0-)

      entitled to the principle that the confidentiality of their sources must be safeguarded over all other considerations in the interest of transparency.

      If we start carving exceptions for 'crappy' reporters, we are soon down the rabbit hole of pure executive or judicial whim. Can anyone say "Hello Star Chamber, v 2.0?"

      •  press badge isn't a suicide pact (0+ / 0-)

        maybe crappy reporters who don't have the respect of their peers cannot expect their peers to back them up when they get in trouble.

        Especially when they get in trouble for doing something stupid.

      •  except she's not a reporter... (0+ / 0-)

        She's a writer. She just writes whatever she thinks will work for the site. Go to and search for her "articles." They are a handful of dreck, not journalism. Giving her the label of journalist dilutes the ever shrinking field of real journalists that might need protection when they actually write about something significant and need to protect a real source, not just some drunk tea bagger in a bar. Those are her normal sources. I know, I watched her at work at the bar at the Blake hotel during the DNC last year in Charlotte.

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