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  •  You are citing efforts that contradict the school (0+ / 0-) an open manner. We are not talking about "fighting" what the school teaches. These students aren't in the main square of the college contradicting the tenets of the schools teachings.

    And in the end, the only thing the school can do is expel the students thus breaking the contract. We do not lose our rights as citizens. We do have to abide by our contracts we make. But if those contracts go beyond the bounds of religion and try to infringe on our rights in other areas they might be opening up a hornet's nest if they fight it in court.

    "I think it's the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately." -- George Carlin, Satirical Comic,(1937-2008)

    by Wynter on Mon Apr 08, 2013 at 06:23:42 PM PDT

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    •  You don't understand the First Amendment (3+ / 0-)
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      at all.

      Here's an example.  I'm in New Orleans.  We generally hate the Atlanta Falcons.  I can make a rule in my house that anybody who says the word "falcon" cannot come in my home.  That's my complete right.  If I invite you to a party for the whole neighborhood in my house and you say "falcon," i can tell you to leave, and if you don't, I can have you arrested for trespassing.

      And you know what?  Loyola University here in New Orleans can do the exact same thing if they want.  They can say, if you display Atlanta Falcons stuff in your dorm room, you will be kicked out of the dorm.  It may be really stupid, it may lose them some students, but they have every right to do that.  The students don't have some "First Amendment" right to display Atlanta Falcons stuff on someone else's private property.  

      The school told the students that openly distributing condoms out of the school's dorm room violated the school's policy and they should stop.  The students refused to stop.  There is no "right" of students to keep violating the school's policy.  

      •  I don't understand (3+ / 0-)
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        Why this isn't self-evident. You can completely disagree with the stance of the school's administration, while at the same time recognizing that it is their right to take this stance.

        Despite being conservative Catholic university, the student body, as well as the faculty and staff, are an extremely diverse group where politics and religion is concerned, and wide swaths of the BC community disagree with the administration's policies in this matter. And I think it's healthy for them to debate it, and healthy for them to oppose it, and even to protest it. But at the end of the day there is simply no way around the fact that it's BC's house, and BC's rules.

    •  That makes ZERO sense (1+ / 0-)
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      as in NONE.  At all.

      These students have no case.  At all.  The school would win on the first motion to dismiss.  All a lawsuit is going to do is waste more money and officially recognize the school as being in the right.

      Because they are.

      You have this weird interpretation of the 1st Amendment that equates to no one is ever allowed to tell anyone they can't do something.  This is nowhere close to accurate... nor has it ever been in US history.  Nor should it.

      Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

      by Wisper on Tue Apr 09, 2013 at 11:42:44 AM PDT

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