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  •  News Flash: "the base" showed up in 2010. Who (26+ / 0-)

    did not?  The disillusioned independents and middle ground folks who wanted big change and were dissed once again.

    If you want to talk about 2014, please be kind enough to explain how Obama helps Democrats in 2014 with "Obama wants to cut Social Security" on the agenda?

    "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

    by YucatanMan on Mon Apr 08, 2013 at 09:42:25 PM PDT

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    •  Revisionism here. 2010 was TP & anti-ACA all the (1+ / 0-)
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      way.  Not moderates but a backlash uprising of the RW, Fox, racism, country-mice, etc.

      This crowd (the gang's all here, I think) didn't cause it but sure didn't help.

      •  Bailing out Wall Street and not addressing jobs (10+ / 0-)

        ... to any significant degree had nothing to do with it, huh?

        I love how people around here still love to blame Cassandra and give Paris a complete pass.

        If you want to cut Social Security, you're not a real Democrat.

        by Dallasdoc on Tue Apr 09, 2013 at 06:04:44 AM PDT

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      •  talk about revisionism (2+ / 0-)
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        The tax cut debacle wherein the Democratic majority did their hostage taking bs. kabuki while cutting dirty deals and setting up the endless fiscal cliffs of mass deception? The health care reform that did not make insurance affordable but instead subsidized the extortionist's and made the 'health care' for profit more profitable? Screwing the teachers and homeowners who were underwater?

        Gimmie a break the RW racist, pig ignorant maniacs may have been enthusiastically voting for the likes of Bachman and co. but the Democrat's blew it. Indies and those who elected a Democratic majority and the WH are not low information idiots they elected the Dems for some desperately needed audacious change after 8 years of the Bushies wrecking the place. Instead the got back room corporate deals and stern lectures on responsibility and told that we do not disparage wealth creation. All people saw was some bad bad kabuki. The people who took the bait of 2008 were not enthusiastic and with good reason.

        The facts via the numbers tells the real story. The demographics of who stayed home does not coincide with your analysis.  It's not like ordinary people didn't notice what happened after they voted Democratic. All the rhetoric, and twisty talking points just don't cut it when people have to live in this nasty ass reality. I'm sick and tired of the loyalists blaming the voters it's insult to injury.              

        •  Yup, it was this: (1+ / 0-)
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          Indies and those who elected a Democratic majority and the WH are not low information idiots they elected the Dems for some desperately needed audacious change after 8 years of the Bushies wrecking the place.

          Instead the got back room corporate deals and stern lectures on responsibility and told that we do not disparage wealth creation.

          All people saw was some bad bad kabuki.

          The people who took the bait of 2008 were not enthusiastic and with good reason.

          "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

          by YucatanMan on Tue Apr 09, 2013 at 02:21:05 PM PDT

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