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  •  Yeah, I've noticed a little movement on this. (3+ / 0-)

    See how this guy posted "Democrats didn't show up" so he can cover his ass, though the dog whistle is the same as the old "liberals sat out 2010" canard.

    Don't worry, though.  They're already saying we're to blame for the 2014 midterm loss of the Senate.  We're already depressing turnout because we're pissed off about the Obama Administration proposing to cut Social Security and all of the other horrific nonsense this Administration is working towards.

    I kid you not.  I've seen the comments already, around here, from all of the Usual Suspects of the cheertroll brigade.

    *The administration has done virtually nothing designed to reward its partisans. - Kos 8/31/10*

    by Rick Aucoin on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 12:32:21 PM PDT

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    •  It's not that Dems/Liberals didn't show up (0+ / 0-)

      It's that so  many more Rep/Conservatives DID show up.  In 2006, the GOP base was dispondent over the Iraq war, and the fact that the Left had basically won the war on framing the Bush presidency.  The Left was hyper-energized.  They had something to vote for (regaining Congress), and something to vote against (Bush).

      In 2010, the Dem base was dispondent.  HCR was a disappointing compromise that it almost felt like the GOP won.  The economy and UE sucked.  The shine was seriously off Obama.  The Tea Party was hyper-energized.  They had something to vote for (Regaining Congress), and something to vote against (Obama).

      If this scenario plays out, how can you see any other outcome than the GOP holds the House and gets real close to the Senate takeover?  The GOP will vote for (retaking the Senate) and against (Obama).  Dems will vote for (OK, maybe the long shot of retaking the House), and against (what, Boehner?  Wall Street?).  The great unwashed don't even know who Boehner is, and they don't even know what Wall Street does.  Without something to vote against, which is a far greater motivator than voting for something, most voters just stay home in midterms.

      •  Yes, having something to vote FOR is important. (3+ / 0-)
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        SouthernLiberalinMD, raboof, HCKAD

        And blaming the 2010 midterms on liberals not turning out, or the "professional left" for driving down liberal turnout, or any of a dozen other bullshit excuses that have been trotted out by the Usual Suspect Cheertrolls, has kept any real accounting from being done of exactly why turnout for the D's wasn't MORE up, why more independents voted R than in 2006, why more white women voted R than D than in 2006 and so forth.

        Since the Obama Administration came in with a huge mandate in 08, then squandered it playing bi-partisan "I'll take him at his word" footsy with the Republicans, and sold us all out to the insurance companies with their Health Insurance Reform deal, typical voters were pretty damn discouraged, compared to what they'd been told to expect by Candidate Obama and his campaign.

        But if half the post-mortem is about the damn Professional Left blah blah blah, and the other half of the post-mortem is trying to correct the zombie lie that won't die, then there's never any real attention given to the real problems shown in the 2010 midterms.

        The same problems, I'm saying right now for the record, we'll see in 2014.

        Namely, the Administration is showing itself consistently to be a Washington DC Business As Usual sort of group of people, which isn't what we were all supposed to Hope for, and it sure as hell isn't the Change we voted for in 08.

        *The administration has done virtually nothing designed to reward its partisans. - Kos 8/31/10*

        by Rick Aucoin on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 02:38:34 PM PDT

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      •  can't vote against Wall St unless (0+ / 0-)

        the Democrats are against Wall St, and most of em look like they're not.

        if necessary for years; if necessary, alone

        by SouthernLiberalinMD on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 04:10:44 PM PDT

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