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  •  I'm not sure that the KY Dem Party is a (5+ / 0-)
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    completely objective source.  As was said, it's trying to distance itself form the affair.

    The elevation of appearance over substance, of celebrity over character, of short term gains over lasting achievement displays a poverty of ambition. It distracts you from what's truly important. - Barack Obama

    by helfenburg on Fri Apr 12, 2013 at 03:26:06 AM PDT

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    •  Of course they are (4+ / 0-)
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      And they should.  Especially if they actually had nothing to do with it.  If Progress Kentucky gets thrown under the bus for what appears to be illegal behavior, I can live with that.  But the KY Democratic Party should also be very loud in making sure McConnell's illegal activities are also investigated.

      As far as degree of bad goes, this is nowhere near Watergate.  It'll be compared, because it was a recording of political opponents, but that's not really what happened here. The Senate Minority Leader, one of the most powerful people in the country, was careless or arrogant enough to be overheard planning illegal activities.  None of which is really in doubt.  

      The issue is being muddied because the folks who overheard this illegal plan decided to record it, without first informing the Senator.  Of course, if they hadn't, it would be nothing but the word of a few activists against one of the most powerful people in the country, and I've got to assume that McConnell would get away with it.  Hell, he'll probably get away with it anyway.

      "And the President of the United States - would be seated right here. I would be here. And he would be here. I would turn - and there he’d be. I could pet ‘im." - Lewis Black

      by libdevil on Fri Apr 12, 2013 at 06:52:47 AM PDT

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      •  My point about McConnell's statement re: bugging (4+ / 0-)
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        is that it clearly demonstrates the alacrity with which he always says what isn't true.  He has no evidence of bugging, but that doesn't stop him from saying there was bugging.

        The elevation of appearance over substance, of celebrity over character, of short term gains over lasting achievement displays a poverty of ambition. It distracts you from what's truly important. - Barack Obama

        by helfenburg on Fri Apr 12, 2013 at 06:57:06 AM PDT

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      •  "None of which is really in doubt"? (5+ / 0-)
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        The Senate Minority Leader, one of the most powerful people in the country, was careless or arrogant enough to be overheard planning illegal activities.  None of which is really in doubt.  
        Wait, did I miss something?  It's my understanding that any illegalities on McConnell's part are still highly speculative.  He might have been using on-the-clock office aides as campaign workers, and the guy speaking might have been from a PAC. And what illegal activity was being planned?
        •  He was doing something wrong (0+ / 0-)

          The epic level of freak-out gives it away.  Otherwise, a relatively banal campaign meeting was recorded.  McConnell would reasonably be pissed about that, but if there's no story there, his response was way over the top.  You call for an investigation, shrug off the reported content of the meeting (like really, anybody's surprised they were looking for dirt on Ms. Judd?) and go about your business being a US Senator.  Unless, of course, you've been cheating by having your taxpayer funded staff do your dirty work for you.  Then you freak the heck out and start spouting conspiracy theories, because you need to deflect from your own illegal behavior.

          "And the President of the United States - would be seated right here. I would be here. And he would be here. I would turn - and there he’d be. I could pet ‘im." - Lewis Black

          by libdevil on Fri Apr 12, 2013 at 03:32:17 PM PDT

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          •  libdevil - it now seems like McConnell broke no (0+ / 0-)

            laws or rules. The meeting was on a Saturday, not at his office in DC. Because staff is "off the clock" on weekends they can work on political material as long as it is not in the Senator's DC office.

            "let's talk about that"

            by VClib on Fri Apr 12, 2013 at 05:13:33 PM PDT

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          •  We're talking politics circa 2013 (0+ / 0-)

            Of course you freak out if there's even a possibility that someone from the opposition party is illegally eavesdropping on a private campaign meeting. That's public relations gold.  Even if you don't need it to win your race, it can be used to discredit your opponents, which might help your party in general.  
            Come on, take the blinders off and consider what you would do if it was the other way around.

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