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  •  No argument on that point (4+ / 0-)

    That isn't the discussion I had in mind. I was thinking more along the lines of social justice and what kind of a society we want to live in.

    Speaking only for myself, I don't want to live in serfdom and we have a choice whether the 1% agrees or not but it's going to take a lot of work.

    Others have simply gotten old. I prefer to think I've been tempered by time.

    by Just Bob on Fri Apr 12, 2013 at 06:30:19 AM PDT

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    •  That's a completely different question (4+ / 0-)
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      Occupy originally was about this:

      Speaking only for myself, I don't want to live in serfdom and we have a choice whether the 1% agrees or not but it's going to take a lot of work.
      But over time, it became more about whether a group of people has the right to take over a public space and camp out there indefinitely, making it essentially unusable by the rest of the public for any purpose other than being a part of that group (and when you have a lot of people living outdoors in a relatively small space for an extended period of time, for most people, that space becomes unusable at all, as the people downwind of some long-time occupy sites could probably tell you).  Most people do not want that to happen.  

      If Occupy wants to have an influence over the public at large, it needs to be more about economic issues and less about some supposed right to take over public parks in the middle of cities and use them as campgrounds.

      •  In Madison WI, occupying-space (3+ / 0-)
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        has become a a focal point in a transformative way, for and by the homeless -- people who are denied the very basics of space to occupy.

        Excellent journalism here in The Isthmus:

        A place called OCCUPY MADISON: How a homeless community turned into a political force

        The current Madison Occupy-ers are (for the most part) not the ones who first resonated with the encampment at Zucotti Park -- but encampment has different resonances when you have nowhere else to go, and the homeless Occupy group of Madison continues to exert positive pressure on the powers-that-be.

        Sometimes, economic issues and occupying-space issues are one and the same.

        If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality. - Bishop Desmond Tutu

        by AnnieJo on Fri Apr 12, 2013 at 10:12:21 AM PDT

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