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  •  But certainly this is a step in the right directio (0+ / 0-)

    People are moving back to urban areas and taking buses to work in the suburbs.  Is it shades of grey to complain about the size of the buses, or is it nitpicking?  

    "When I was an alien, cultures weren't opinions" ~ Kurt Cobain, Territorial Pissings

    by Subterranean on Fri Apr 12, 2013 at 02:37:01 PM PDT

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    •  if you reread my letter (0+ / 0-)

      you'll see that the issue is beyond the buses or transportation.

      Ecology is the new Economy

      by citisven on Fri Apr 12, 2013 at 04:57:58 PM PDT

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      •  I guess we just disagree (1+ / 0-)
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        I figure if a company is providing bus service to its employees so they can live in an urban area and avoid driving cars everywhere, that's great for the environment and great for urban development and culture.  So what if the bus has a fat arse.  If that's what it takes to get Americans to stop choosing 1 hour commutes to and from work everyday, then so be it.

        I'd even bet that many of these employees are progressives who are trying to do the right thing.

        "When I was an alien, cultures weren't opinions" ~ Kurt Cobain, Territorial Pissings

        by Subterranean on Fri Apr 12, 2013 at 08:10:03 PM PDT

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        •  I think it's okay as an interim solution (0+ / 0-)

          and I'd be much more supportive of it if there was a long term plan by these companies that would try to remedy the larger issue that 80 mile round trip commutes are ultimately not sustainable if we're really trying to create an ecologically healthy planet, whether they're done by bus or car. So if Google and Apple said, "okay, we really want to get the best and brightest employees in the world, and the best and brightest want to live in San Francisco, so let's work on relocating parts of our operations to San Francisco and in the meantime run these buses," I'd be much more okay with it. They certainly could afford it, considering how much cash they're sitting on, but they're not doing it because they have to pay much more property tax in SF than in Silicon Valley, where they get total sweetheart deals. So really, they want to have all the benefits of SF but not pay the price for it. Have their cake and eat it too. Okay, cool, that's what corporations do, but then please don't tell me to bow down to their tremendous generosity and environmental concerns, and praise them for being good stewards for doing something that is just the cheapest and most expedient way of doing business for them.

          Ecology is the new Economy

          by citisven on Sat Apr 13, 2013 at 03:21:26 PM PDT

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          •  There are offices in SF (0+ / 0-)

            But they aren't moving their HQ there for the 20somethings.  They have many more employees who live in Silicon Valley and don't want to live in SF, and they want to remain close to the companies they partner with, the venture capital firms they invest with, and the grad students bringing them new ideas that will be the next startups.

            Looking at this as "avoiding" SF taxes is, to this 25 year resident of Silicon Valley, curious.

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