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  •  We have some sustainable technologies (8+ / 0-)

    We could currently replace most of our stationary power with wind, hydro and solar. We would need to improve our grid substantially as many of the sources of energy are remote from the centers of consumption. This would be a very large task requiring national mobilization and large scale funding, much of it through debt.

    Transportation conversion will be slower as right now we need portable fuels or much better batteries. Powering our fleet of aircraft will be another matter. We can do this perhaps with synthetic liquid fuels or hydrogen, but that needs considerable development.

    We have no viable technology for sequestering CO2 out of the atmosphere. That means that we are at the gambling tables right now. When we do reach sustainability will we have put so much CO2 in the atmosphere that we are beyond the tipping point into a geologic age of extreme temperatures? Some scientists think that we have already reached that tipping point.

    The problem for now, though, is when to we begin to seriously address this issue? I don't see serious effort at large scale solar and wind. Where is the construction of the national grid?  Why does it take 5 years to get through permitting to develop a new offshore wind farm in Federal waters? Sustainable energy sources are different than fossil fuel sources in that the incremental cost per kilowatt hour is near zero. The entire problem, is capital funding and that will need to be solved by government.

    The fossil fuel industry is playing a delaying game. The problem is that global climate degradation is occurring at a rate even faster than the worst case models. We can't afford to play the politics being forced by vested interests. I don't know the solution, but perhaps it's a combination of visionary leaders like Bernie and a mass movement of the people. Perhaps even a global mass movement.

    •  A Mission to Global Ownership. (2+ / 0-)
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      SouthernLiberalinMD, The Wizard

      We've spent generations surrendering power and authority to them. We need to petition them to act. There isn't remotely enough time to figure out how to bring our systems of government to act appropriately by following their rules of operation.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Sun Apr 14, 2013 at 07:51:25 PM PDT

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      •  no unity of purpose (0+ / 0-)

        there either. "Global Ownership"? Concerted action between an Amercian oligarch, a russian tycoon and whoever controls the opaque workings of the chinese ruling party? That is as much of a pipedream as any popular public mobilisation.

        In fact, just because this is a global crisis, I would think that popular public mobilisation is eventually more useful, as all countries governments will have to cooperate, not just those that are controlled by plutocrats.

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