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  •  Brothel scenes = car chases? (6+ / 0-)

    or visits to strip clubs in cop shows. They're all just filler.

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    by irate on Mon Apr 15, 2013 at 02:42:20 AM PDT

    •  But well done. Just how many curtains are there? (5+ / 0-)

      By the same token, the liberal in me wonders why so many of these genre books, movies, series, etc. are so misogynistic.  I remember reading the Gor series in middle school. Terrible influence on my view of the ideal woman until I grew up.

      •  the standard excuse is that fantasy series are (4+ / 0-)

        set in a particular era of human existence and that era WAS misogynistic. Brutal culture means those with brute force treat those who can't fight back brutally.

        That argument sort of negates the value of "fantasy", if you ask me.

        •  That's a good point and it's something.... (5+ / 0-)

          ....that George R.R. Martin has acknowledged. And he said that part of his challenge of writing was creating fully realized female characters who find different ways of coping with a misogynistic world. I think Catelyn, Arya, Brienne, and even Cersei are interesting characters. Even Sansa comes into her own as the series goes on.

        •  the other excuse (1+ / 0-)
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          is even more simple.

          Basically, the core audience for fantasy and for science fiction are the same.

          And the "Golden Age" for these genres?


          i.e. they are written for an audience of 13-year-old boys.

          Need we say more?

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          by Noziglia on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 07:16:13 AM PDT

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      •  Martin is a fierce progressive liberal (2+ / 0-)
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        And most of his female characters are very strong - with the exception of the ever-whiny Sansa Stark.  I really can't stand Catelyn - she has brought so much misery on herself with her bad judgment, running around instead of securing her base at home with her boys, but you can't say she's not strong and fiercely independent in judgment.

    •  they aren't really in the book much... (1+ / 0-)
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      there isn't a ton of overtly sexual stuff in the book, not like what they put in the tv series. I'v always figured the producers throw up some boobies every so often to make sure they don't lose their demographic's interest. It's always come off a bit heavy handed to me.

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      by sixeight120bpm on Mon Apr 15, 2013 at 11:53:45 PM PDT

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    •  Brothel scenes are "just filler"? (0+ / 0-)

      And thereby resemble ... "car chases"? I beg your pardon. As Tryion says to his guard Bron as they begin questioning Pod on his adventures in the multi-player brothel scene:

      "We're going to need some details. Copious details."

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      by TRPChicago on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 04:56:09 PM PDT

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