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  •  But well done. Just how many curtains are there? (5+ / 0-)

    By the same token, the liberal in me wonders why so many of these genre books, movies, series, etc. are so misogynistic.  I remember reading the Gor series in middle school. Terrible influence on my view of the ideal woman until I grew up.

    •  the standard excuse is that fantasy series are (4+ / 0-)

      set in a particular era of human existence and that era WAS misogynistic. Brutal culture means those with brute force treat those who can't fight back brutally.

      That argument sort of negates the value of "fantasy", if you ask me.

      •  That's a good point and it's something.... (5+ / 0-)

        ....that George R.R. Martin has acknowledged. And he said that part of his challenge of writing was creating fully realized female characters who find different ways of coping with a misogynistic world. I think Catelyn, Arya, Brienne, and even Cersei are interesting characters. Even Sansa comes into her own as the series goes on.

      •  the other excuse (1+ / 0-)
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        Odysseus

        is even more simple.

        Basically, the core audience for fantasy and for science fiction are the same.

        And the "Golden Age" for these genres?

        Thirteen.

        i.e. they are written for an audience of 13-year-old boys.

        Need we say more?

        In Washington, whenever anyone does something wrong, everyone else gets punished.

        by Noziglia on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 07:16:13 AM PDT

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    •  Martin is a fierce progressive liberal (2+ / 0-)
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      And most of his female characters are very strong - with the exception of the ever-whiny Sansa Stark.  I really can't stand Catelyn - she has brought so much misery on herself with her bad judgment, running around instead of securing her base at home with her boys, but you can't say she's not strong and fiercely independent in judgment.

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