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  •  Biggest group pushing for this repeal? (11+ / 0-)

    Unions.  Government Employee Labor Unions.

    Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

    by Wisper on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 05:29:04 AM PDT

    •  Ah, so it's those corrupt Union folks (9+ / 0-)

      who pushed this in cahoots with the Administration.

      Well then the President should be impeached and the unions broken for their underhanded betrayal of the public trust.

      Lets go get those janitors and secretaries! They've joined the President in back stabbing us all!

      ::sigh::

      "Compassion is not weakness, and concern for the unfortunate is not socialism." Hubert H. Humphrey

      by Onomastic on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 06:03:15 AM PDT

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      •  Ono... you know this is not what I was pushing (1+ / 0-)
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        My point is this is not some under-handed betrayal that everything the man does will not be viewed as.

        This was something the Government Employees did not want.

        Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

        by Wisper on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 06:47:41 AM PDT

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        •  I read it as a joke (2+ / 0-)
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          If that's any help.

          Streichholzschächtelchen

          by otto on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 06:53:28 AM PDT

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          •  Hmm.. well I was serious (7+ / 0-)

            The Government Unions were very opposed to this bill and wanted its repeal.  

            Oh and, per Roll Call

            Both houses of Congress passed this bill unanimously and it was not done in a vacuum,” Press Secretary Jay Carney said. “Congress changed the online posting provision only after a panel of experts from the National Academy of Public Administration studied this issue and issued a report recommending indefinite suspension,” raising national security, law enforcement and personal security concerns.

            Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

            by Wisper on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 07:01:36 AM PDT

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            •  Thanks for the that, Wisper (3+ / 0-)
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              So in other words, even if the President wanted to veto it, it was a veto proof bill.

              To say nothing about how the NAPA study found serious flaws that put every day Federal employees at risk.

               

              "Compassion is not weakness, and concern for the unfortunate is not socialism." Hubert H. Humphrey

              by Onomastic on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 07:23:53 AM PDT

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              •  no (2+ / 0-)
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                it wasn't veto-proof, they did this on friday when many went home for the weekend.

                then obama signed it on monday.

                that's way too fast, and as Sunlight Foundation writes:

                It is possible that the Senate’s overreaction could have been avoided if anyone had the chance to read the bill. According to Roll Call, “neither the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee nor its House counterpart seemed to have specifics on what was in the works, a further indication that the matter was being handled at the leadership level in each chamber.” The bill, S. 716, was voted on by unanimous consent last night shortly after it was introduced by Senator Reid, and apparently after many members went home for the weekend. The bill was not available to the public on the Library of Congress website until after the vote.
                How much more obvious does this have to be? A bill that's about promoting transparency and preventing corruption was rushed through the process without any public input or discussion -- HELLO!??!!?!?

                Feel free to find whatever angle you want to make yourself feel better about whoever you're predisposed to support politically, but to ignore the facts about how it was recommended by NAPA that they overhaul the whole ethics system, and instead of butchering the bill they could carve out those in sensitive positions from having their information public and searchable.

                Deficits don't matter, jobs do.

                by aguadito on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 07:32:28 AM PDT

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                •  And if the vote had occured in the middle of the (7+ / 0-)

                  week with full attendance would the vote have been any different?

                  You assume a great deal. And those assumptions and insults are badly undercutting the very points you are attempting to raise.

                  I'm willing to go with ineptitude and the law of unexpected consequences in this mess. But I'm not ready to assume that it's all due to malign intent. I don't know enough yet.

                  That's the point I always start from, by the way, not a knee jerk defense or attack of either a politician or policy.  I always assume that I have research to do. That research means reading more than one source. It means taking the time to do so. It means asking questions, making mistakes, and then reading some more. The right to that in order to come to my own conclusions I do not hand over to anyone.

                  And yet you seem to be insisting that I hand that right over to you.

                  In case you didn't notice, there's a great deal going on today after yesterday's attack in Boston and my patience for your approach to valid issues is just gone.

                  Therefore, so am I.

                  Have a good day.

                  "Compassion is not weakness, and concern for the unfortunate is not socialism." Hubert H. Humphrey

                  by Onomastic on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 08:00:20 AM PDT

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        •  Wisper, it was meant as snark. (1+ / 0-)
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          something I'm obviously lousy at. :(

          Sorry about that.

          "Compassion is not weakness, and concern for the unfortunate is not socialism." Hubert H. Humphrey

          by Onomastic on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 06:57:54 AM PDT

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          •  You and me both then. (1+ / 0-)
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            Sorry...

            Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

            by Wisper on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 06:59:32 AM PDT

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            •  No worries. :) (0+ / 0-)

              If nothing else it serves as an example of how easy it is for misunderstandings to happen.

              And perhaps that is something that needs to be thought about.

              I don't know about anyone else, but I know the horror of what happened in Boston yesterday is making everything else harder to deal with so I'm trying to keep that in mind with my own reactions to things.

              Not saying I'm going to succeed, but need to try anyway. :(

              "Compassion is not weakness, and concern for the unfortunate is not socialism." Hubert H. Humphrey

              by Onomastic on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 07:05:33 AM PDT

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