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  •  Lots of reasons... (1+ / 0-)
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    noway2

    At least one for each gun,  often more. Many of them different. "Because I like them" applies to all of them,  though... I don't keep guns I don't like.

    Very few are things I "need"... but then, I don't "need" either of my motorcycles, or the rv,  or the dune buggy, or the bicycles, or a whole bunch of the stuff I own. Hell, the motorcycles are arguably more dangerous than the guns, at least in the sense that my risks are far less under my control.

    "Need" simply isn't relevant to the discussion.

    --Shannon

    "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." -- Emiliano Zapata Salazar
    "Dissent is patriotic. Blind obedience is treason." --me

    by Leftie Gunner on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 03:42:24 PM PDT

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    •  "Want" isn't in the 2nd Amendment either... (1+ / 0-)
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      coquiero

      there's a clearly defined purpose to the Right to Keep and Bear Arms... "because I want them" isn't in there...

      Oh, and I thought car and motorcycle ownership weren't "rights"? That's the default argument against gun registration from you folks, isn't it? Make up your mind...

      Baby, where I come from...

      by ThatSinger on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 04:19:36 PM PDT

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    •  Perhaps it should be (0+ / 0-)

      then we might be better able to have a conversation about responsibility.

      And about this:

      Hell, the motorcycles are arguably more dangerous than the guns, at least in the sense that my risks are far less under my control.
      I can only say, the people who are most confident about their "sense of control" are the ones I worry about the most.

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      by coquiero on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 04:45:29 PM PDT

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      •  simply an observation... (0+ / 0-)

        Statistically,  I have no idea which is the more dangerous. And I don't think it really matters much. Both are dangerous,  and require active risk management to be used at all.

        All I was noting is that it seems to me that more of the risks in the case of the motorcycle come from outside factors. Short of a mechanical malfunction, my gun is unlikely to harm me or others while I'm using it unless I do something stupid. The risk of others is there, of course, unless you shoot alone, but the balance is different... There are simply more "others" around when riding. It's also true,  at least in my experience, that shooters tend to be more careful when shooting than drivers are when driving. Probably because the danger is more obvious.

        --Shannon

        "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." -- Emiliano Zapata Salazar
        "Dissent is patriotic. Blind obedience is treason." --me

        by Leftie Gunner on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 06:49:58 PM PDT

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