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  •  Really? (8+ / 0-)

    So, if an industry in my home town -- one where I don't work, which I don't support, and over which I have no influence -- unleashes some sort of devastation that drives me from my home, maybe injures or kills part of my family, and leaves me desperate, I shouldn't look for aid from my government because the disaster wasn't natural?

    I sure hope you live far, far away from any potential source of anthropogenic peril. 'Cause I'd hate for you ever to have to consider taking aid from the rest of us (which I certainly expect we would offer regardless of your views) when doing so would be so offensive to you.

    "Do it in the name of Heaven; you can justify it in the end..." - Dennis Lambert & Brian Potter

    by pragmaticidealist on Fri Apr 19, 2013 at 06:47:32 AM PDT

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    •  interesting... (2+ / 0-)
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      I think that, ultimately, ALL of the costs for damages should be borne by the industrial concern that created the disaster. Perhaps they could be required to pay back the relief funds?

      •  If negligence or some other culpability is proved (4+ / 0-)

        then sure, go after the source of the problem. But that will take a long time, if it ever happens -- and in a lot of cases, the damage could outstrip the assets available to make restitution.

        Plus you have the question of whether it makes sense to drive even an irresponsible employer out of business by fining it to death (as opposed to fining it to teach and/or punish but not destroy). In the long run, if a major employer goes under, that just brings more suffering to a small town.

        Any way you slice it, the only rational source of immediate relief is government, and that generally means the Federal government. Whether we ever get that money back worries me less than making sure it's available when needed. It's a major part of why I pay taxes (even if it's a small percentage of what they go for).

        "Do it in the name of Heaven; you can justify it in the end..." - Dennis Lambert & Brian Potter

        by pragmaticidealist on Fri Apr 19, 2013 at 08:01:21 AM PDT

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        •  Huzzah! Someone who gets it! (7+ / 0-)

          I could never predicate my aid based on whether the disaster is natural or man-made.  

          Of course, man-made disasters have the potential to be repaid by the company/person who did it, and by all means pursue every legal course to fine them and recoup as much of the cost of the disaster relief as possible - but the first consideration should be to provide that relief to those in need first, and worry about collecting damages later.

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          by Noddy on Fri Apr 19, 2013 at 08:35:46 AM PDT

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        •  Well, you could drive the irresponsible (0+ / 0-)

          owner out of business, while encouraging responsible ownership to take it over. That would make sense.

          There's only one rule that I know of, babies -- goddammit, you've got to be kind. -- Kurt Vonnegut

          by Cali Scribe on Fri Apr 19, 2013 at 10:22:00 AM PDT

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          •  If there were mechanisms in place to do so. (0+ / 0-)

            But unless we can level criminal charges against them, or severe enough civil suits, I don't know that there's any way legally to force a business owner to leave their position, much less sell out to someone we like better.

            "Do it in the name of Heaven; you can justify it in the end..." - Dennis Lambert & Brian Potter

            by pragmaticidealist on Fri Apr 19, 2013 at 11:08:08 AM PDT

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