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  •  Like you said, "language counts" (0+ / 0-)

    We are one species.  The very concept of different "races" is one rooted in false thinking that divides rather than unites folks.  The idea that we are different "races" comes from Victorian times when there was a benefit for those defining others to call us "the white race, the yellow race, the black race, etc."  Some races were easily subjugated and exploited by other races and the idea of lesser "races" and  these classifications made it made it easy to do.

    I totally aree with what you say:

    There are problems with any definition of race that defines any skin color as a cohesive and culturally distinct entity. It creates a parasitic concept of race that is a threat to the cultures and identities of almost everyone.
    However, This quote from Wikipedia is also relevant.  
    While biologists sometimes use the concept of race to make distinctions among fuzzy sets of traits, others in the scientific community suggest that the idea of race often is used[4] in a naive[5] or simplistic way, i.e. that among humans, race has no taxonomic significance: all living humans belong to the same species, Homo sapiens and subspecies, Homo sapiens sapiens.[6][7]

    Social conceptions and groupings of races vary over time, involving folk taxonomies [8] that define essential types of individuals based on perceived traits. Scientists consider biological essentialism obsolete,[9] and generally discourage racial explanations for collective differentiation in both physical and behavioral traits.[5][10][11][12][13]

    Since the second half of the 20th century the associations of race with the ideologies and theories that grew out of the work of 19th-century anthropologists and physiologists has led to the use of the word race itself becoming problematic. Although still used in general contexts, it is now often replaced by other words which are less ambiguous and emotionally charged, such as populations, people(s), ethnic groups or communities depending on context.[14][15]

    So, I understand what you say and say mahalo for your thoughtful reply but I still think that if folks were more careful to use less ambiguous more precise and accurate words their own words would carry more precise meaning.
    •  So there's no such thing as Racism? (0+ / 0-)

      Being that race is imaginary, is racism too also something imaginary?

      Is the argument that you're making that racism cannot exist because race is imaginary?

      Races may not exist in the biological sense, and to that point I completely agree, but does it follow that ethnic hatred, to which we give the word "racism" is nonexistent?

      An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t'Saoghail. (The truth against the world.) Is treasa tuath na tighearna. (The common people are mightier than the lords.)

      by OllieGarkey on Sat Apr 20, 2013 at 12:22:12 PM PDT

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      •  Sorry, you misunderstand the point .... (0+ / 0-)

        You might notice that it is called "ethnic cleansing" not "racial cleansing" when one ethnic group kills another.  

        And when religious intolerance blossoms into war or killing it is called religious hatred, not racism.  To mix it all together in one big emotionally charged and incorrect term serves no purpose except to arouse similar actions and responses.

        Words.  Remember what Wikipedia said: words mean.  

        concept of race.........Although still used in general contexts, it is now often replaced by other words which are less ambiguous and emotionally charged, such as populations, people(s), ethnic groups or communities depending on context.[14][15]
        Try it, and see if it makes your thinking more critical and less emotional.
        •  I was just asking questions because I didn't (0+ / 0-)

          understand your point. I'm still kind of mystified by what you're saying. I already know all about scientific racism, and that skin color

          So in my calculation, "race" is just another word for ethnic group.

          And I'm not feeling anything at all except slightly confused.

          Are you saying that we should get rid of the word racism? If so, come out and say that.

          Try spelling things out a bit clearer, because I don't know what you're trying to say here.

          I already accept that race is an artificial construct. Are you talking about replacing the word "Racism" with the term "Ethnic Hatred?"

          An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t'Saoghail. (The truth against the world.) Is treasa tuath na tighearna. (The common people are mightier than the lords.)

          by OllieGarkey on Sat Apr 20, 2013 at 01:27:33 PM PDT

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