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  •  you are offering up a stew of silliness (0+ / 0-)

    more classic white racist colorblind distractions--how we go from talking about white supremacy and a society structured around white privilege to talking about child molestation is a classic one--really, I mean that--worthy of a poster somewhere.

    you are so vulnerable! it must hard being such a white do gooder. how do you get the energy dealing with all of us ungrateful colored folk? would you like a hug or a sticker?

    "Yep, it must be tedious to be called out for your "all whites are racist" crap. "

    In this society whiteness equals racism; all individual white people may not be equally invested in white supremacy; they do benefit from that system. Own that fact and move on.

    i am a man in this society. i benefit from how gender gives me undo privilege. when we discuss how sexism is real and men as a group are complicit in it, I do not throw a fit. If I am living my life righteously and trying to fight those systems I am at peace. Your defensiveness suggests a deep investment in white supremacy and the normativity of Whiteness.

    There are many liberal white racists. In fact, they are among the most dangerous.

    •  Yep (0+ / 0-)

      Totally unwilling to examine your biases.  Yes privilege exists.  Old news.  Maybe someday you'll have a broader understanding

      I am not in the slightest bit defensive.  I am simply opposing racism where it exists.  You should do the same

      Touch all that arises with a spirit of compassion

      by Mindful Nature on Sat Apr 20, 2013 at 11:54:01 PM PDT

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      •  stop dodging and playing (0+ / 0-)

        do you believe that white people are victims of "racism?"

        that will reveal exactly where you stand and the degree of your complicity in a system of colorblind racism and white supremacy. think hard before you answer. just be honest.

        are you a white victimologist?

        •  "Victims"? (0+ / 0-)

          No.  That would hardly be accurate.  Do I think racism nevertheless is expressed? Absolutely

          I like you notion that you wouldn't pitch a fit. You kind of are now.  I'd certainly be interested to see how you would react to an assertion by Glenn Beck or someone that all blacks are morally inferior or something like that.  Hard to imagine you'd be sanguine about it.  Maybe if he said it about Jews or Hispanics you'd be ok with it.  I don't know

          Touch all that arises with a spirit of compassion

          by Mindful Nature on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 12:12:21 AM PDT

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          •  false equivalence (0+ / 0-)

            again, do you believe that white people are somehow subjected to racism? yes or no. easy answer. stop playing.

            •  I told you (0+ / 0-)

              By a reasonable, common definition, yes.  There are plenty of people who express racist views out there.

              I am sorry I haven't been able to make it clearer to you what this means or how to think about it that makes sense to you.  My failing I suppose.  

              Touch all that arises with a spirit of compassion

              by Mindful Nature on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 07:50:28 AM PDT

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          •  and you are being dishonest as well (0+ / 0-)

            we have done this many times. i am frustrated at myself for dealing with your trollish behavior. my hope is that someone will see this, who may be ignorant about white supremacy, and learn about its modern variety by reading your responses.

            Whiteness does not equal all white people; masculinity does not equal all men. Given your supposed deep reading on these topics you would understand that. Social systems are not necessarily comments about individual level behavior. They are however, comments about the aggregated level behavior of individuals.

            Again, are white people subjected to racism? Are you a white victimologist?

            •  I agree with all you just said here (0+ / 0-)

              Truly.  I honestly agree that racists institutions, processes and cultural ideas are ubiquitous and exact a terrible toll in our society and are profoundly unjust.   This is all correct and not controversial

              The point I am trying to make so poorly then comes from the question of how does an individual respond to that?  What is the best and most appropriate response to these facts?  

              I am sorry I have frustrated you

              Touch all that arises with a spirit of compassion

              by Mindful Nature on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 07:56:38 AM PDT

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            •  And (0+ / 0-)

              It is only know that I finally figured out what, precisely, my objection is to, which is why it has been soo befuddled up to now.

              Touch all that arises with a spirit of compassion

              by Mindful Nature on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 08:17:03 AM PDT

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