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  •  He may get life. (3+ / 0-)
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    loblolly, GrumpyOldGeek, Onomastic

    Kind of obvious he wasn't the ringleader.

    BTW: Does Mass. have the death penalty?

    "Michael Moore, who was filming a movie about corporate welfare called 'Capitalism: A Love Story,' sought and received incentives."

    by Bush Bites on Fri Apr 19, 2013 at 05:05:49 PM PDT

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    •  The U.S. does. n/t (1+ / 0-)
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      •  Why wouldn't the state have jurisdiction? n/t (0+ / 0-)

        "Michael Moore, who was filming a movie about corporate welfare called 'Capitalism: A Love Story,' sought and received incentives."

        by Bush Bites on Fri Apr 19, 2013 at 05:09:51 PM PDT

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        •  supremacy clause (4+ / 0-)
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          oceanview, indie17, Kevskos, Yellow Canary

          federal charges always take precedence over state charges

          "We didn't set out to save the world; we set out to wonder how other people are doing and to reflect on how our actions affect other people's hearts." - Pema Chodron

          by teacherken on Fri Apr 19, 2013 at 05:11:30 PM PDT

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        •  b/c of the marathon bombing, presumably (2+ / 0-)
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          FBI's been involved from the beginning.

          Thanks to the internet, bullshit now travels at the speed of light.

          by nota bene on Fri Apr 19, 2013 at 05:12:54 PM PDT

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        •  IF it is terrorism -- which depends on motive -- (1+ / 0-)
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          it's automatically federal. But even if it's not, there would be fed jur due to the explosives, I suspect, plus now they've done stuff to interfere with a federal investigation (clever, that one) and used WMDs and done any number of other things that will allow the feds to take it if they want. Which they will, although that doesn't mean they'd seek death, necessarily.

        •  The state does have jurisdiction for most of this (1+ / 0-)
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          Several murder charges clearly apply. Many, many others. Whether they ever get to this point is something I can't predict.

          But he'll be charged with federal terrorism charges up front. MA doesn't have the death penalty, but federal charges of terrorist acts does.

          I just hope he'll be captured alive.

          Right now they're reporting that he's covered with blood and not moving any more. He hasn't taken fluid in almost 24 hours. He was injured last night. So the loss of blood is important. He's been shot again, so this is time-critical now.

          Gotta get him outta there and get an IV into him ASAP. He wasn't in shock a half hour ago, but this can happen quickly. Once that happens, organ failure soon follows and it's difficult to revive anyone.

          They really, really want to capture him alive. If they'd just stop firing dozens of bullets into him, maybe they'd have a better chance of that.

          "Never wrestle with a pig: you get dirty and the pig enjoys it"

          by GrumpyOldGeek on Fri Apr 19, 2013 at 05:22:05 PM PDT

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      •  Some kind of antiterrorism legislation? (0+ / 0-)

        "Michael Moore, who was filming a movie about corporate welfare called 'Capitalism: A Love Story,' sought and received incentives."

        by Bush Bites on Fri Apr 19, 2013 at 05:10:40 PM PDT

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      •  Jurisdiction is an issue (3+ / 0-)
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        Most murder charges are state charges and handles through state courts;  Federal courts are loathe to pre-empt them unless the nature of the charge — as defined in law — specifically places it under Federal jurisdiction.  That may or may not be the case here.  

        However, even in U.S. capital cases, the government attempts to give wide deference to local prosecutors and officials.  They don't often push the death penalty in capital cases from states where the death penalty has been abolished. Federal prosecutors don't have to do this, but they often do out of respect for the principle of federalism.  

        Shirley Chisholm was right. Our Republic is in deep trouble.

        by Big River Bandido on Fri Apr 19, 2013 at 05:15:39 PM PDT

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