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  •  Well done essay, csk! .... but (5+ / 0-)

    let's not be too quick to say that the left/liberal/progressive/D side is pacifist, less violent. In the ways that you detail in your essay, absolutely "yes" but the left's participation in violence may be more oblique or differently distributed than the Rs. We think of ourselves as empathic, etc., and for the most part our policy stances are dictated by that care for the least protected. However, many Ds are OK with drone warfare  and with our war culture in general. Rampant poverty around the world is also a great violence supported and at least partially caused by our over-indulgent first-world addiction to comfort and convenience--and that includes us over here on the lefter side of the spectrum.

    So in general I agree with what you write, but am always aware of the potential violence of good conscience on the part of the left/liberal side.

    There are moments when the body is as numinous as words, days that are the good flesh continuing. -- Robert Hass

    by srkp23 on Sat Apr 20, 2013 at 10:39:08 AM PDT

    •  If I read this correctly (5+ / 0-)

      The thesis presented is

      1. Liberals are as vulnerable as conservatives to the attribution of being potentially violent
      2. Because of bipartisan support for policies, including expansion of drone war programs begun during the Bush years
      3. And equivalent embrace of consumerism
      4. that exploits natural resources and labor from our vast overseas virtual empire
      5. Current passivity of rhetoric and conduct on the part of the left notwithstanding

      Which distills to

      1. All human beings are potentially violent, when pressed.

      In other words, peace is preferable. We can always fight, and will, but ... why must we?

      •  Yes and not only "when pressed" (4+ / 0-)

        We participate in violence sometimes unknowingly. If we think of violence only in the most graphic, literal terms, it may be easy for us to say we are non-violence, but if we are honest with ourselves and think about violence expansively and the interconnected nature of things, then we might be able to see how we too contribute to violence.

        I think that the road to consistently making the peaceful choice is to frankly look at the ways in which we too participate in cycles of violence, big and small, gross and overt, or symbolized and hidden... and then as much as possible, always make the less violent choice. This is an on-going life practice and this preference for non-violence also entails being kind to ourselves, not berating ourselves if we can't always choose the more peaceful path etc.

        There are moments when the body is as numinous as words, days that are the good flesh continuing. -- Robert Hass

        by srkp23 on Sat Apr 20, 2013 at 11:15:34 AM PDT

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