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  •  That is my point (23+ / 0-)

    Why build those facilities so close to the plant. Someone was not thinking or they bought a load of bs that it was safe.

    Keep fightin' for freedom and justice, beloveds, but don't you forget to have fun doin' it. Lord, let your laughter ring forth. Be outrageous, ridicule the fraidy-cats, rejoice in all the oddities that freedom can produce.---Molly Ivins

    by never forget 2000 on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 03:27:48 AM PDT

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    •   Land was cheap? (17+ / 0-)

      Feds are trying to intimidate landlords of Marijuana clinics because they are within xx ft/yards of a school,church, whatever.

      Known explosive materials, well the plant is there, and the owners of adjoining properties can't be deprived of their property rights to make lots of money on land they probably inherited as farm land.

    •  Helloooo? Zoning Laws (14+ / 0-)

      In towns and cities where the people actually care about the health and life safety of the public, there are clear zoning laws which mandate where factories, chemical plants, etc. can and cannot be located-- typically not within a few hundred feet of a residential area, school, etc.

      The explosion in West, TX makes it clear why zoning laws are necessary-- as well as other laws/inspections related to the amount of volatile materials can be stored/how they are stored at a fertilizer manufacturing facility.

      I suspect the crybabies who typically whine about "too many government regulations on industry" will be silent now for a few days.

      BTW, the death toll from the explosion will be much higher than 14. Last I heard there are 40 people still missing.

      "The 1% don't want SOLUTIONS; they've worked very hard the last four decades to get conditions the way they are now".

      by Superpole on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 07:12:39 AM PDT

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      •  Yup.... (12+ / 0-)

        I am completely agreeing with you.
        However, this is Texas, where redistricting and gerrymandering a voting district to give better chances to the 'R's who will wink, nod and look the other way about anything but what the 'big boys' say, is commonplace.
        Why think zoning laws there wouldn't be manipulated in favor of the corporation over the general population?

        I think, therefore I am........................... Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose....AKA Engine Nighthawk - don't even ask!

        by Lilyvt on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 08:25:14 AM PDT

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        •  Why... (0+ / 0-)
          Why think zoning laws there wouldn't be manipulated in favor of the corporation over the general population?
          Zoning laws aren't "manipulated". they are either adhered to or there's no point in having the laws.

          Obviously public health and life safety aren't a priority in small towns in Texas.

          "The 1% don't want SOLUTIONS; they've worked very hard the last four decades to get conditions the way they are now".

          by Superpole on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 06:23:52 PM PDT

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      •  Thousands of little towns across the country (1+ / 0-)
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        have no zoning laws. Or very weak ones.

        Zoning is something larger cities have, not every little town.

        I'm not saying that's right.  That is just the situation that exists.

        You can't say "those people don't care."  No one wants to endanger children and elderly or anybody needlessly.  But things like this simply are not imagined.  "People who care" is just another way of blaming the victims: "Well, they didn't care enough to make their town safe."

        Things like "the farm coop has always been here" simply are.

        A farm coop in the center of town, because that's where the railway can drop off lots of bags of fertilizer, etc.

        "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

        by YucatanMan on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 05:16:55 PM PDT

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        •  bunch of crap (1+ / 0-)
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          people don't care. all elections matter and people are lazy. classic example of not enough regulation and years of cutting funds by wingers to eliminate oversight.

          Sorry anyone died but they also made a conscious decision to live there. everyone has a choice and those people made theirs as did the morons who ran that plant and the company.

          blame the government (again) but this is a clear example of what happens when government is not properly funded so that the wealthy can make more money. someone decided loss of the town and some dead people were not bad things as long as profits were good.

          mittens=edsel. no matter how much money is spent to promote it, if the product sucks, no one will buy it.

          by wewantthetruth on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 06:35:25 AM PDT

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      •  True but dangers even in well-regulated states (1+ / 0-)
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        Even in CA which has copious regulations there are still large developed areas at risk from dangerous plants. In San Diego County there is a Sony Plant located in a very developed area. It is in right in the middle of the Rancho Bernado area that suffered huge losses during the 2005 wildfire.  On numerous occasions the whole area has had to be evacuated due to an accidental release of toxic chemicals. I use to work at the Hewlett Packard facility next door and I vividly recall going into lock down when an incident occurred at Sony. We were all too happy to comply when they gave us permission to proceed to our cars and drive out of the area immediately.

    •  Nursing Warehouses (2+ / 0-)
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      First of effing all, the victims are old people, they are going to die anyway, so who cares, not their families,otherwise why would they be in a nursing warehouse.SNARK.
       Secondly, this is Texas where bidness reigns supreme and any law or regulation that gets in the way of bidness is to be ignored or ridiculed. Don't be fragile in Texas, tain't kind.
       I think the difference between Boston and Texas is classist at its core and there are also other threads of a neglected federal infrastructure that only gets attention through tragedy.

    •  Because........water pipe and (1+ / 0-)
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      electric lines cost money probably.

      •  That is all I could come up with, too (0+ / 0-)

        But this Town is like in the middle of nowhere.

        Just a thought: my guess that in this area there are a lot of RWs. Funny, they want to take about right to life except when it comes to guns and regulations to protect the public health. A child's life is very cheap outside a mother's womb, apparently.

        Keep fightin' for freedom and justice, beloveds, but don't you forget to have fun doin' it. Lord, let your laughter ring forth. Be outrageous, ridicule the fraidy-cats, rejoice in all the oddities that freedom can produce.---Molly Ivins

        by never forget 2000 on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 01:47:06 PM PDT

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