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  •  Ad hominem is not debate (0+ / 0-)

    I don't have any reason except your word to believe that you actually have any personal knowledge whatsoever on the State Department. Trying to put people down what you assume to be their personal knowledge might be is ad hominem. Stick to objective facts.  

    Do you want chapter and verse on how the CIA is part of every major station, that the intelligence officers pose as State Department officials? On how the intelligence people  and FSOs have overseen and planned torture and murder? State Department officials have done plenty of terrible things. There shouldn't be any argument about what are well-known historical facts.

    If you actually do have a spouse in the service, that subtracts from your ability to see this issue objectively.

    •  I never asked to debate. (3+ / 0-)
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      whizdom, BvueDem, pragmaticidealist

      You used the example of State Department briefings and cables to support your view.  

      You shouldn't assume what I know or don't know from a few paragraphs written in response to a post derisive of an entire agency of people.  

      I do not claim to be wholly objective, but I AM knowledgable about what actually goes on inside an embassy.  Objectivity does not inherently trump subjectivity when there is an information gap.

      •  I for one appreciate your efforts to let (0+ / 0-)

        the rest of us know what goes on.

        I do know that in the seventies and eighties the diplomatic staff was expected to know the language where they served. This all fell away during the reign of Bush the Elder, and was even much worse under Bush the Younger. But of course, even way way back when, the situation sometimes was so dire, that you see novels like "The Ugly American' getting written to expose what goes on.

        It seems a lot of the thinking inside the Washington beltway these days comes down to "Who has the military right, needs nothing else."

        Offer your heart some Joy every day of your life, and spread it along to others.

        by Truedelphi on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 07:48:25 PM PDT

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