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  •  Indeed.. MoDo is right (4+ / 0-)
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    This President thinks (naively, and in his second term yet!) that he simply needs to go to the American people and if they are on board, so too will be the Senate.  How many times is this tactic going to fail him before he catches on?

    With all of the things on the President's plate - the same things on the plate of the GOP - he couldn't find something to deal to make it happen?  

    He reminds me of the rube marked by a con-man as easy pickings.

    And, as far as Bill Daley goes.. Hahahahaha - Hey Bill!  That's what you get for thinking doling out $2500 bucks from your Chicago condo let's you decide North Dakota politics!  You'll get your money back when the President learns how to dicker - which doesn't seem anytime soon.

    •  Naively? (4+ / 0-)

      Maybe he knew it would be very difficult to rake up enough votes in the Senate we have today.
      Let's give him credit for raising this issue. It is up to the electorate, especially its activists, to get a better Congress.

      Censorship is rogue government.

      by scott5js on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 08:12:02 AM PDT

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    •  The President doesn't command the Senate. (3+ / 0-)
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      LBJ was from there. It was his life and his career for several terms, and as its leader, he was a very effective one. He had sway with them as President because of his former presence within the Senate structure.

      The President, as such, Obama or any other, holds no such sway. Senators are princes of the realm, independent of party if need be (except for committee assignments and some perks), and utterly beholden to their own support structure. The President, as such, is no where in that structure.

      He has some ways of influencing the Senate, not many but some. And Yes, I wish he had the presence there that Joe Biden has, that he liked the institution, that he was a political glad hander. But he doesn't and isn't.

      And on gun issues, I doubt very very much that a glad hander would have been influential when all those grieving family members and fellow colleagues were not.

      Obama goes to the people because that's his strength, not because "he simply" believes as they go, so the Senate goes. It's us who need to convince those princes of the realm where their strength is ... and isn't.

      2014 IS COMING. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

      by TRPChicago on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 08:55:52 AM PDT

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      •  It's not the fault of Republicans (7+ / 0-)

        It's now a meme I guess.  Peggy Noonan said the same thing this morning.

        The translation is, as usual:

        Republicans did something stupid and/or despicable.

        Therefore

        Blame Obama.

        Just because the government keeps a record of real property transfers, it doesn't mean that the government wants to confiscate your home.

        by NCJan on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 09:04:32 AM PDT

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        •  And the meme: remind people that there were... (1+ / 0-)
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          ... some Democrats who voted against "gun control" bills. Ignore totally President Obama's shorthand - that 90% of the Democrats voted for background checks and 90% of the Republicans voted against.

          Ignore also that the polls on the subject - poll after poll, even the polls not said to be liberal-biased! - that well cover the public and many key sub-sets of the public.

          Yes, I blame the NRA. It's a devil we can point to and it sure deserves opprobrium. But the real devil is that the gun advocates are visible, they're noisy, they write letters and they do get out and vote. That multiples their voice way beyond their actual numbers. And they target votes in primaries - a single-issue-bundle target of utter defiance of how far out their views are, how unrepresentative of the general public, including many responsible gun owners.

          We, on the other hand, are multiple issue voters. And politically - at the ballot box - we will have to forgive those errant Democrats because we cannot afford to yield the Senate, too. In 2014, we need every Democrat who can win an election.

           So ... what can we do? [First, a moment of hand wringing and whinging. Whew. Glad that moment's over.] We can lobby those Senator-princes of the realm who believe they know what their voters want. Show them what their voters want. Marshall influential state-level citizens to call and visit their Senators and Congresspersons. Counter the one-on-one lobbying of their "friends" - the professional lobbyists from the NRA, the Gun Owners of America, and the insta-grass-roots groups funded by the special interests of the gun-rightists.

          We need to make our arguments as simple as theirs' and meet them on home turf.

          2014 IS COMING. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

          by TRPChicago on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 09:47:07 AM PDT

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          •  Comprehensive (2+ / 0-)
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            TRPChicago, Calamity Jean

            I would also conclude--

            1. Make sure those Democrats who voted against the bill know that they will not "pay" if they vote for it.  In other words, promise them Blumberg money if they take a risk.

            2.  Make sure Republicans running in purple states/districts are targeted if they voted against the bill.  Put money behind it.

            One thing different now than before--we've got a greater lobbying presence and more money on our side.

            Just because the government keeps a record of real property transfers, it doesn't mean that the government wants to confiscate your home.

            by NCJan on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 10:19:52 AM PDT

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