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  •  Oh, bullshit (9+ / 0-)

    First of all, the president doesn't run the Congress, nor is his party in charge of both branches. The reality is with a Republican led House, there isn't much he can get through Congress, so he has to negotiate with Republicans to get anything done.
    Secondly, he was "dealing" with Congress in that he had many meetings with Senators, and both he and Michelle were out across the country telling people to call their Senators. I even called my two Republican Senators, for all the good I knew it was going to do.
    Secondly the chained CPI is not a "massive benefits cut", and was put on the table to entice Republicans to deal.
    You forgot to mention that there was almost $600 billion in new revenues attached to it, and if you think there is one Republican in the Senate who is going to vote for higher taxes and for Obama's budget, I have a bridge to sell you.

    “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

    by skohayes on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 05:46:03 AM PDT

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    •  CPI is Huge to Populations Incapable of Adjusting. (3+ / 0-)
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      Change the tax rates for working people and they can do things to compensate. Once you're disabled or elderly it's outright theft, there's no ability to replace lost income.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 06:35:25 AM PDT

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    •  Here's my take about President Obama (7+ / 0-)

      and the current governmental/legislative mess...

      The President is neither a wimp nor a shill, what he is, I believe, from listening to what he says and watching what he does is an idealist (in the most technical sense of that term) about government.

      He wants a functioning Senate with a working opposition, not an obstructive mob determined to monkey wrench the entire process. I think, even more than any individual piece of legislation or any singular political issue he sees as his greatest legacy trying to get back the government that was the inheritance the founders left us: a democracy with three branches that accounts for both the majority and the minority party the purpose of which is to govern in the interest of the general welfare.

      The point where I believe his assessments may be off are in the degree to which he reckons he can get this train of government back onto the tracks.  But it is important enough to him that he is willing to sacrifice a great deal for it.  For many progressives, who may not be as deeply invested in government qua government that may be too far.  

      He is very clearly a centrist Democrat in terms of policy goals and positions, and those who are expecting progressive paths from a Centrist are bound to be disappointed, unless they understand, as I long have, that progressivism always entails struggling with the forces of the status quo in all points across the political spectrum where they are located. But as a politician, a political leader and a statesman, he is most clearly an idealist about the structure and operation of government.  

      But it seems to me, this is the real difference, and I suspect it is one that many critics of Obama miss, in their push to attribute his failures to betrayal, or lack of "courage", or identification with the 1%.  

      Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

      by a gilas girl on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 07:48:16 AM PDT

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    •  The chained CPI debacle is failure...period. I (4+ / 0-)

      don't care why he did it or to what premise they were addressing it to even if some kind of crazy chess game that they thought they could win.

      Sure the Republicans are going to say no....but now they can run ad after ad in 2014 saying they voted no to stop the SS package Obama brought to the table with a big shiny bow.

      It should have never, ever, ever been offered.  We are the party that opposes all cuts to the big 3....all cuts, all the time.  That changed the day Obama brought it to the table with scissors.  We can no longer credibly say "we never would".  That is the real harm in what he did and millions of us know this.

      •  Not if the Democrats (1+ / 0-)
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        in the Senate and the House stand against it, as many are promising to do- remember that the progressive caucus outnumbers the Blue Dogs in the House by a large margin.
        And then the Democrats can say that they stood up against their own president to "save" Social Security.
        Republicans will be left railing against Obama, who is not running for reelection.

        “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

        by skohayes on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 09:07:14 AM PDT

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        •  Let's hope they do but when you even have Pelosi (1+ / 0-)
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          cheer leading for it, and others....it's kind of hard to say "oh well it was really all their fault".

          It should have never, ever been done...and no matter how many times we say "well he did it because...." changes that fact.

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